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From: Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>
To: Mingming Cao <cmm@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	lsf@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Lsf] Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 14:49:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110401214923.GD25355@noexit> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1301693666.2720.257.camel@mingming-laptop>

On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 02:34:26PM -0700, Mingming Cao wrote:
> > > I was thinking along the line to provide finer granularity lock to allow
> > > concurrent direct IO to different offset/range, but to same offset, they
> > > have to be serialized. If it's undefined behavior, i.e. overlapping is
> > > allowed, then concurrent dio implementation is much easier. But not sure
> > > if any apps currently using DIO aware of the ordering has to be done at
> > > the application level. 
> > 
> > 	Oh dear God no.  One of the major DIO use cases is to tell the
> > kernel, "I know I won't do that, so don't spend any effort protecting
> > me."
> > 
> > Joel
> > 
> 
> Looks like so -
> 
> So I think we could have a mode to turn on/off concurrent dio if the non
> heavy duty applications relies on filesystem to take care of the
> serialization.

	I would prefer to leave this complexity out.  If you must have
it, unsafe, concurrent DIO must be the default.  Let the people who
really want it turn on serialized DIO.

Joel

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-01 21:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1301373398.2590.20.camel@mulgrave.site>
2011-03-29  5:14 ` [Lsf] Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF Amir Goldstein
2011-03-29 11:16 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-29 11:22   ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-03-29 12:17     ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-29 13:09       ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-03-29 13:12         ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-29 13:38         ` James Bottomley
2011-03-29 17:20   ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-29 17:33     ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-29 18:10       ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-29 18:45         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-29 19:13           ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-29 19:57             ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-29 19:59             ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-29 20:12               ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-29 20:23                 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-29 23:09                   ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-30  5:58                     ` [Lsf] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-03-30 14:02                       ` James Bottomley
2011-03-30 14:10                         ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-03-30 14:26                           ` James Bottomley
2011-03-30 14:55                             ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-03-30 15:33                               ` James Bottomley
2011-03-30 15:46                                 ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-30 20:32                                 ` Giridhar Malavali
2011-03-30 20:45                                   ` James Bottomley
2011-03-29 19:47   ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2011-03-29 20:29   ` Jan Kara
2011-03-29 20:31     ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-30  0:33   ` Mingming Cao
2011-03-30  2:17     ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-30 11:13       ` Theodore Tso
2011-03-30 11:28         ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-30 14:07           ` Chris Mason
2011-04-01 15:19           ` Ted Ts'o
2011-04-01 16:30             ` Amir Goldstein
2011-04-01 21:46               ` Joel Becker
2011-04-02  3:26                 ` Amir Goldstein
2011-04-01 21:43             ` Joel Becker
2011-03-30 21:49       ` Mingming Cao
2011-03-31  0:05         ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-03-31  1:00         ` Joel Becker
2011-04-01 21:34           ` Mingming Cao
2011-04-01 21:49             ` Joel Becker [this message]
2011-03-29 17:35 ` Chad Talbott
2011-03-29 19:09   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-29 20:14     ` Chad Talbott
2011-03-29 20:35     ` Jan Kara
2011-03-29 21:08       ` Greg Thelen
2011-03-30  4:18   ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-30 15:37     ` IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: Re: [Lsf] Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF) Vivek Goyal
2011-03-30 22:20       ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-30 22:49         ` Chad Talbott
2011-03-31  3:00           ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-31 14:16         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-31 14:34           ` Chris Mason
2011-03-31 22:14             ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-31 23:43               ` Chris Mason
2011-04-01  0:55                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-01  1:34               ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-01  4:36                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-01  6:32                   ` [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: " Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-01  7:23                     ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-01 12:56                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-21 15:07                         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-01 14:49                   ` IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: Re: [Lsf] " Vivek Goyal
2011-03-31 22:25             ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-31 14:50           ` [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: " Greg Thelen
2011-03-31 22:27             ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-01 17:18               ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-01 21:49                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-02  7:33                   ` Greg Thelen
2011-04-02  7:34                     ` Greg Thelen
2011-04-05 13:13                   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-05 22:56                     ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-06 14:49                       ` Curt Wohlgemuth
2011-04-06 15:39                         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-06 19:49                           ` Greg Thelen
2011-04-06 23:07                           ` [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback Greg Thelen
2011-04-06 23:36                             ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-07 19:24                               ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-07 20:33                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-07 21:34                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-07 23:42                                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-08  0:59                                   ` Greg Thelen
2011-04-08  1:25                                     ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-12  3:17                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-08 13:43                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-06 23:08                         ` [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: Re: Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF) Dave Chinner
2011-04-07 20:04                           ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-07 23:47                             ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-08 13:50                               ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-11  1:05                                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-06 15:37                       ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-06 16:08                         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-06 17:10                           ` Jan Kara
2011-04-06 17:14                             ` Curt Wohlgemuth
2011-04-08  1:58                             ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 14:26                               ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-06 23:50                         ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-07 17:55                           ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-11  1:36                             ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-15 21:07                               ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-16  3:06                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-18 21:58                                   ` Jan Kara
2011-04-18 22:51                                     ` cgroup IO throttling and filesystem ordered mode (Was: Re: [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: Re: Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF)) Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19  0:33                                       ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 14:30                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 14:45                                           ` Jan Kara
2011-04-19 17:17                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 18:30                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-21  0:32                                               ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-21  0:29                                           ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 14:17                               ` [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: Re: Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF) Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 14:34                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 14:48                                   ` Jan Kara
2011-04-19 15:11                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 15:22                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 15:31                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 16:58                                           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 17:05                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 20:58                                               ` Jan Kara
2011-04-20  1:21                                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20 10:56                                                   ` Jan Kara
2011-04-20 11:19                                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20 14:42                                                       ` Jan Kara
2011-04-20  1:16                                               ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20 18:44                                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-20 19:16                                                   ` Jan Kara
2011-04-21  0:17                                                   ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-21 15:06                                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21 15:10                                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21 17:20                                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-22  4:21                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-22 15:25                                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-22 16:28                                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-04-25 18:19                                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-26 14:37                                                               ` Vivek Goyal

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