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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	"lsf@lists.linux-foundation.org" <lsf@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: Re: Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:17:37 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110421001737.GA1814@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110420184433.GH29872@redhat.com>

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 02:44:33PM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 09:16:38AM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 01:05:43AM +0800, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > > So this will be called for even meta data READS. Then there is no
> > > advantage of moving the throttle hook out of generic_make_request()?
> > > Instead what I will need is that ask file systems to mark meta data
> > > IO so that I can avoid throttling.
> > 
> > Do you want to avoid meta data itself, or to avoid overall performance
> > being impacted as a result of meta data read throttling?
> 
> I wanted to avoid throttling metadata beacause it might lead to reduced
> overall performance due to dependencies in file system layer.
> 
> > 
> > Either way, you have the freedom to test whether the passed filp is a
> > normal file or a directory "file", and do conditional throttling.
> 
> Ok, will look into it. That will probably take care of READS. What 
> about WRITES and meta data. Is it safe to assume that any meta data
> write will come in some jounalling thread context and not in user 
> process context?

No.

Journal writes in XFS come from the context that forces them to
occur, whether it be user, bdi-flusher or background kernel thread
context. Indeed, we can even have journal writes coming from
workqueues and there is a possibility that they will always come
from a workqueue context in the next release or so. 

As for metadata buffer writes themselves, they currently come from
background kernel threads or workqueues in most normal operational
cases.  However, in certain situations (e.g. sync(1), filesystem
freeze and unmount) we can issue write IO on metadata buffers
directly from the user process context....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-04-21  0:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2011-03-29  5:14 ` [Lsf] Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF Amir Goldstein
2011-03-29 11:16 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-29 11:22   ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-03-29 12:17     ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-29 13:09       ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-03-29 13:12         ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-29 13:38         ` James Bottomley
2011-03-29 17:20   ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-29 17:33     ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-29 18:10       ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-29 18:45         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-29 19:13           ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-29 19:57             ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-29 19:59             ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-29 20:12               ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-29 20:23                 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-29 23:09                   ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-30  5:58                     ` [Lsf] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-03-30 14:02                       ` James Bottomley
2011-03-30 14:10                         ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-03-30 14:26                           ` James Bottomley
2011-03-30 14:55                             ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-03-30 15:33                               ` James Bottomley
2011-03-30 15:46                                 ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-30 20:32                                 ` Giridhar Malavali
2011-03-30 20:45                                   ` James Bottomley
2011-03-29 19:47   ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2011-03-29 20:29   ` Jan Kara
2011-03-29 20:31     ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-30  0:33   ` Mingming Cao
2011-03-30  2:17     ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-30 11:13       ` Theodore Tso
2011-03-30 11:28         ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-30 14:07           ` Chris Mason
2011-04-01 15:19           ` Ted Ts'o
2011-04-01 16:30             ` Amir Goldstein
2011-04-01 21:46               ` Joel Becker
2011-04-02  3:26                 ` Amir Goldstein
2011-04-01 21:43             ` Joel Becker
2011-03-30 21:49       ` Mingming Cao
2011-03-31  0:05         ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-03-31  1:00         ` Joel Becker
2011-04-01 21:34           ` Mingming Cao
2011-04-01 21:49             ` Joel Becker
2011-03-29 17:35 ` Chad Talbott
2011-03-29 19:09   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-29 20:14     ` Chad Talbott
2011-03-29 20:35     ` Jan Kara
2011-03-29 21:08       ` Greg Thelen
2011-03-30  4:18   ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-30 15:37     ` IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: Re: [Lsf] Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF) Vivek Goyal
2011-03-30 22:20       ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-30 22:49         ` Chad Talbott
2011-03-31  3:00           ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-31 14:16         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-31 14:34           ` Chris Mason
2011-03-31 22:14             ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-31 23:43               ` Chris Mason
2011-04-01  0:55                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-01  1:34               ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-01  4:36                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-01  6:32                   ` [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: " Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-01  7:23                     ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-01 12:56                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-21 15:07                         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-01 14:49                   ` IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: Re: [Lsf] " Vivek Goyal
2011-03-31 22:25             ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-31 14:50           ` [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: " Greg Thelen
2011-03-31 22:27             ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-01 17:18               ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-01 21:49                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-02  7:33                   ` Greg Thelen
2011-04-02  7:34                     ` Greg Thelen
2011-04-05 13:13                   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-05 22:56                     ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-06 14:49                       ` Curt Wohlgemuth
2011-04-06 15:39                         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-06 19:49                           ` Greg Thelen
2011-04-06 23:07                           ` [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback Greg Thelen
2011-04-06 23:36                             ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-07 19:24                               ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-07 20:33                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-07 21:34                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-07 23:42                                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-08  0:59                                   ` Greg Thelen
2011-04-08  1:25                                     ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-12  3:17                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-08 13:43                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-06 23:08                         ` [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: Re: Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF) Dave Chinner
2011-04-07 20:04                           ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-07 23:47                             ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-08 13:50                               ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-11  1:05                                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-06 15:37                       ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-06 16:08                         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-06 17:10                           ` Jan Kara
2011-04-06 17:14                             ` Curt Wohlgemuth
2011-04-08  1:58                             ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 14:26                               ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-06 23:50                         ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-07 17:55                           ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-11  1:36                             ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-15 21:07                               ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-16  3:06                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-18 21:58                                   ` Jan Kara
2011-04-18 22:51                                     ` cgroup IO throttling and filesystem ordered mode (Was: Re: [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: Re: Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF)) Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19  0:33                                       ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 14:30                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 14:45                                           ` Jan Kara
2011-04-19 17:17                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 18:30                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-21  0:32                                               ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-21  0:29                                           ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 14:17                               ` [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: Re: Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF) Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 14:34                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 14:48                                   ` Jan Kara
2011-04-19 15:11                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 15:22                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 15:31                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 16:58                                           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 17:05                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 20:58                                               ` Jan Kara
2011-04-20  1:21                                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20 10:56                                                   ` Jan Kara
2011-04-20 11:19                                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20 14:42                                                       ` Jan Kara
2011-04-20  1:16                                               ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20 18:44                                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-20 19:16                                                   ` Jan Kara
2011-04-21  0:17                                                   ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2011-04-21 15:06                                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21 15:10                                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21 17:20                                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-22  4:21                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-22 15:25                                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-22 16:28                                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-04-25 18:19                                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-26 14:37                                                               ` Vivek Goyal

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