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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
	Itaru Kitayama <kitayama@cl.bb4u.ne.jp>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] writeback: sync expired inodes first in background writeback
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:45:47 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110421004547.GD1814@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110420025321.GA14398@localhost>

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:53:21AM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 09:21:20AM +0800, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 08:56:16PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > I actually started with wb_writeback() as a natural choice, and then
> > > found it much easier to do the expired-only=>all-inodes switching in
> > > move_expired_inodes() since it needs to know the @b_dirty and @tmp
> > > lists' emptiness to trigger the switch. It's not sane for
> > > wb_writeback() to look into such details. And once you do the switch
> > > part in move_expired_inodes(), the whole policy naturally follows.
> > 
> > Well, not really. You didn't need to modify move_expired_inodes() at
> > all to implement these changes - all you needed to do was modify how
> > older_than_this is configured.
> > 
> > writeback policy is defined by the struct writeback_control.
> > move_expired_inodes() is pure mechanism. What you've done is remove
> > policy from the struct wbc and moved it to move_expired_inodes(),
> > which now defines both policy and mechanism.
> 
> > Furhter, this means that all the tracing that uses the struct wbc no
> > no longer shows the entire writeback policy that is being worked on,
> > so we lose visibility into policy decisions that writeback is
> > making.
> 
> Good point! I'm convinced, visibility is a necessity for debugging the
> complex writeback behaviors.
> 
> > This same change is as simple as updating wbc->older_than_this
> > appropriately after the wb_writeback() call for both background and
> > kupdate and leaving the lower layers untouched. It's just a policy
> > change. If you thinkthe mechanism is inefficient, copy
> > wbc->older_than_this to a local variable inside
> > move_expired_inodes()....
> 
> Do you like something like this? (details will change a bit when
> rearranging the patchset)

Yeah, this is close to what I had in mind.

> 
> --- linux-next.orig/fs/fs-writeback.c	2011-04-20 10:30:47.000000000 +0800
> +++ linux-next/fs/fs-writeback.c	2011-04-20 10:40:19.000000000 +0800
> @@ -660,11 +660,6 @@ static long wb_writeback(struct bdi_writ
>  	long write_chunk;
>  	struct inode *inode;
>  
> -	if (wbc.for_kupdate) {
> -		wbc.older_than_this = &oldest_jif;
> -		oldest_jif = jiffies -
> -				msecs_to_jiffies(dirty_expire_interval * 10);
> -	}

Right here I'd do:

	if (work->for_kupdate || work->for_background)
		wbc.older_than_this = &oldest_jif;

so that the setting of wbc.older_than_this in the loop can trigger
on whether it is null or not.

>  	if (!wbc.range_cyclic) {
>  		wbc.range_start = 0;
>  		wbc.range_end = LLONG_MAX;
> @@ -713,10 +708,17 @@ static long wb_writeback(struct bdi_writ
>  		if (work->for_background && !over_bground_thresh())
>  			break;
>  
> +		if (work->for_kupdate || work->for_background) {
> +			oldest_jif = jiffies -
> +				msecs_to_jiffies(dirty_expire_interval * 10);
> +			wbc.older_than_this = &oldest_jif;
> +		}
> +

if you change that to:

		if (wbc.older_than_this) {
			*wbc.older_than_this = jiffies -
				msecs_to_jiffies(dirty_expire_interval * 10);
		}

>  		wbc.more_io = 0;
>  		wbc.nr_to_write = write_chunk;
>  		wbc.pages_skipped = 0;
>  
> +retry_all:

You can get rid of this retry_all label and have the changeover in
behaviour re-initialise nr_to_write, etc.

>  		trace_wbc_writeback_start(&wbc, wb->bdi);
>  		if (work->sb)
>  			__writeback_inodes_sb(work->sb, wb, &wbc);
> @@ -733,6 +735,17 @@ static long wb_writeback(struct bdi_writ
>  		if (wbc.nr_to_write <= 0)
>  			continue;
>  		/*
> +		 * No expired inode? Try all fresh ones
> +		 */
> +		if ((work->for_kupdate || work->for_background) &&
> +		    wbc.older_than_this &&
> +		    wbc.nr_to_write == write_chunk &&
> +		    list_empty(&wb->b_io) &&
> +		    list_empty(&wb->b_more_io)) {
> +			wbc.older_than_this = NULL;
> +			goto retry_all;
> +		}

And here only do this for work->for_background as kupdate writeback
stops when we run out of expired inodes (i.e. it doesn't writeback
non-expired inodes).

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-21  0:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-19  3:00 [PATCH 0/6] writeback: moving expire targets for background/kupdate works Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19  3:00 ` [PATCH 1/6] writeback: pass writeback_control down to move_expired_inodes() Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19  3:00 ` [PATCH 2/6] writeback: the kupdate expire timestamp should be a moving target Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19  7:02   ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19  7:20     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19  9:31       ` Jan Kara
2011-04-19  3:00 ` [PATCH 3/6] writeback: sync expired inodes first in background writeback Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19  7:35   ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19  9:57     ` Jan Kara
2011-04-19 12:56       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 13:46         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20  1:21         ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-20  2:53           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21  0:45             ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2011-04-21  2:06               ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21  3:01                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-21  3:59                   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21  4:10                     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21  4:36                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-21  6:36                       ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-21 16:04                       ` Jan Kara
2011-04-22  2:24                         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-22 21:12                           ` Jan Kara
2011-04-26  5:37                             ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-26 14:30                               ` Jan Kara
2011-04-20  7:38           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21  1:01             ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-21  1:47               ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19  3:00 ` [PATCH 4/6] writeback: introduce writeback_control.inodes_cleaned Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19  9:47   ` Jan Kara
2011-04-19  3:00 ` [PATCH 5/6] writeback: try more writeback as long as something was written Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 10:20   ` Jan Kara
2011-04-19 11:16     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 21:10       ` Jan Kara
2011-04-20  7:50         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20 15:22           ` Jan Kara
2011-04-21  3:33             ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21  4:39               ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-21  6:05                 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21 16:41                   ` Jan Kara
2011-04-22  2:32                     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-22 21:23                       ` Jan Kara
2011-04-21  7:09               ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-21  7:14                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-21  7:52                   ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-21  8:00                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-19  3:00 ` [PATCH 6/6] NFS: return -EAGAIN when skipped commit in nfs_commit_unstable_pages() Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19  3:29   ` Trond Myklebust
2011-04-19  3:55     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21  4:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-19  6:38 ` [PATCH 0/6] writeback: moving expire targets for background/kupdate works Dave Chinner
2011-04-19  8:02   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21  4:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-21  5:50   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21  5:56     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-21  6:07       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21  7:17         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-21 10:15           ` Wu Fengguang

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