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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Bruno Prémont" <bonbons@linux-vserver.org>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"Mike Frysinger" <vapier.adi@gmail.com>,
	"KOSAKI Motohiro" <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paul.mckenney@linaro.org>,
	"Pekka Enberg" <penberg@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.39-rc4+: Kernel leaking memory during FS scanning, regression?
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:59:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110427225949.GB2135@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1104280028250.3323@ionos>

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:32:50AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:06:11AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Bruno Prémont wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 27 April 2011 Bruno Prémont wrote:
> > > > Voluntary context switches stay constant from the time on SLABs pile up.
> > > > (which makes sense as it doesn't run get CPU slices anymore)
> > > > 
> > > > > > Can you please enable CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG and provide the output of
> > > > > > /proc/sched_stat when the problem surfaces and a minute after the
> > > > > > first snapshot?
> > > > 
> > > > hm, did you mean CONFIG_SCHEDSTAT or /proc/sched_debug?
> > > > 
> > > > I did use CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG (and there is no /proc/sched_stat) so I took
> > > > /proc/sched_debug which exists... (attached, taken about 7min and +1min
> > > > after SLABs started piling up), though build processes were SIGSTOPped
> > > > during first minute.
> > > 
> > > Oops. /proc/sched_debug is the right thing.
> > > 
> > > > printk wrote (in case its timestamp is useful, more below):
> > > > [  518.480103] sched: RT throttling activated
> > > 
> > > Ok. Aside of the fact that the CPU time accounting is completely hosed
> > > this is pointing to the root cause of the problem.
> > > 
> > > kthread_rcu seems to run in circles for whatever reason and the RT
> > > throttler catches it. After that things go down the drain completely
> > > as it should get on the CPU again after that 50ms throttling break.
> > 
> > Ah.  This could happen if there was a huge number of callbacks, in
> > which case blimit would be set very large and kthread_rcu could then
> > go CPU-bound.  And this workload was generating large numbers of
> > callbacks due to filesystem operations, right?
> > 
> > So, perhaps I should kick kthread_rcu back to SCHED_NORMAL if blimit
> > has been set high.  Or have some throttling of my own.  I must confess
> > that throttling kthread_rcu for two hours seems a bit harsh.  ;-)
> 
> That's not the intended thing. See below.
> 
> > If this was just throttling kthread_rcu for a few hundred milliseconds,
> > or even for a second or two, things would be just fine.
> > 
> > Left to myself, I will put together a patch that puts callback processing
> > down to SCHED_NORMAL in the case where there are huge numbers of
> > callbacks to be processed.
> 
> Well that's going to paper over the problem at hand possibly. I really
> don't see why that thing would run for more than 950ms in a row even
> if there is a large number of callbacks pending.

True enough, it would probably take millions of callbacks to keep
rcu_do_batch() busy for 950 milliseconds.  Possible, but hopefully
unlikely.

Hmmm...  If this is happening, I should see it in the debug stuff that
Sedat sent me.  And the biggest change I see in a 15-second interval
is 50,000 RCU callbacks, which is large, but should not be problematic.
Even if they all showed up at once, I would hope that they could be
invoked within a few hundred milliseconds.

> And then I don't have an explanation for the hosed CPU accounting and
> why that thing does not get another 950ms RT time when the 50ms
> throttling break is over.

Would problems in the CPU accounting result in spurious throttles,
or are we talking different types of accounting here?

							Thanx, Paul

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-27 22:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-24 18:21 2.6.39-rc4+: Kernel leaking memory during FS scanning, regression? Bruno Prémont
2011-04-24 21:59 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25  2:42   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-25  7:47     ` Mike Frysinger
2011-04-25  9:17       ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25  9:25         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-25 10:34           ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 11:41             ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 11:47               ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-25 12:11                 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 12:14                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2011-04-25 12:21                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2011-04-25 15:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-25 16:04           ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 16:31             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-25 17:00               ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 17:10                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-25 17:20                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-25 18:36                   ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 19:16                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-25 21:10                       ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 21:26                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-25 21:30                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-25 21:49                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-26  6:19                             ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-26 11:27                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-26 16:38                                 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-26 17:09                                   ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-26 17:18                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-26 22:28                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-27  6:15                                         ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-27 18:41                                           ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-27 19:16                                             ` Pádraig Brady
2011-04-27 19:34                                               ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-27 22:05                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-27 20:40                                             ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-27 22:07                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-28  6:10                                                 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-27 22:06                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-27 22:27                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-27 22:32                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-27 22:59                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2011-04-27 23:28                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-27 23:46                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-28  9:09                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-28  9:17                                                 ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28  9:40                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-28 10:12                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2011-04-28  9:45                                                 ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 10:26                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-28 13:30                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2011-04-28 15:28                                                       ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 15:44                                                         ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 15:48                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-28 18:49                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-28 20:23                                                           ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-28 20:29                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-28 20:44                                                               ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-28 21:04                                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-28 21:51                                                                   ` john stultz
2011-04-28 22:02                                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-28 23:06                                                                       ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 23:35                                                                         ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-29  0:42                                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-29  9:34                                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29  7:55                                                                       ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-29 18:09                                                                       ` Mike Frysinger
2011-04-29 18:26                                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 19:31                                                                       ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-29 20:10                                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 20:14                                                                           ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-30  9:14                                                                             ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 20:41                                                           ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 19:22                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2011-04-27 21:55                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-28  6:22                                           ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-28 10:26                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-26 17:12                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-26 18:50                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-26 19:17                                       ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-27 22:02                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-25 22:08                         ` Mike Frysinger
2011-04-25 17:29                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-25 18:13                   ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-25 18:28                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-25 17:26               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-27 10:28               ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-25 17:51           ` Pekka Enberg

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