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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Colin King <colin.king@canonical.com>,
	Raghavendra D Prabhu <raghu.prabhu13@gmail.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm: slub: Default slub_max_order to 0
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 10:37:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110512103709.abbc9872.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1305216638.3795.36.camel@edumazet-laptop>

On Thu, 12 May 2011 18:10:38 +0200 Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:

> More fuel to this discussion with commit 6d4831c2
> 
> Something is wrong with high order allocations, on some machines.
> 
> Maybe we can find real cause instead of limiting us to use order-0 pages
> in the end... ;)
> 
> commit 6d4831c283530a5f2c6bd8172c13efa236eb149d
> Author: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> Date:   Wed Apr 27 15:26:41 2011 -0700
> 
>     vfs: avoid large kmalloc()s for the fdtable

Well, it's always been the case that satisfying higher-order
allocations take a disproportionate amount of work in page reclaim. 
And often causes excessive reclaim.

That's why we've traditionally worked to avoid higher-order
allocations, and this has always been a problem with slub.

But the higher-order allocations shouldn't cause the VM to melt down. 
We changed something, and now it melts down.  Changing slub to avoid
that meltdown doesn't fix the thing we broke.

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-12 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-11 15:29 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce impact to overall system of SLUB using high-order allocations Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: slub: Do not wake kswapd for SLUBs speculative " Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 20:38   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: slub: Do not take expensive steps " Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 20:38   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-11 21:10     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 17:25       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: slub: Default slub_max_order to 0 Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 20:38   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-11 20:53     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-11 21:09     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 22:27       ` David Rientjes
2011-05-13 10:14         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 17:36     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-16 21:03       ` David Rientjes
2011-05-17  9:48         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-17 19:25           ` David Rientjes
2011-05-12 14:43   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 15:15     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 15:27       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 15:43         ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 15:46           ` Dave Jones
2011-05-12 16:00             ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 16:08               ` Dave Jones
2011-05-12 16:27               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 16:30                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 16:48                   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 17:46                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 18:00                       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 18:18                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 17:06                   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-12 17:11                     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-12 17:38                       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 18:00                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-13  9:49                           ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-15 16:39                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-16  8:42                               ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 17:51                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 18:03                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 18:09                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 18:16                             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 18:36                       ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 17:40                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 15:55           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-12 18:37             ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 18:46               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 19:21                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 19:44               ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 20:04                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 20:29                   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-12 20:31                     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-12 20:31                     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 22:04                   ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 22:15                     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-12 22:58                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-13  5:39                         ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-13  0:47                       ` James Bottomley
2011-05-13  4:12                         ` James Bottomley
2011-05-13 10:55                         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 14:16                           ` James Bottomley
2011-05-13 10:30                       ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-13  6:16                   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-13 10:05                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 16:01           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 16:10             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-12 17:37               ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2011-05-12 15:45         ` Dave Jones
2011-05-11 21:39 ` [PATCH 0/3] Reduce impact to overall system of SLUB using high-order allocations James Bottomley
2011-05-11 22:28   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-11 22:34     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 11:13       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-12 13:19         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 14:04         ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 15:53           ` James Bottomley
2011-05-13 11:25             ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 18:04       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-13 11:24         ` Mel Gorman

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