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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/15] writeback: introduce .tagged_writepages for the WB_SYNC_NONE sync stage
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 07:24:56 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110607232456.GA19547@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110607160234.53de9f93.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 07:02:34AM +0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 05:32:37 +0800
> Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > sync(2) is performed in two stages: the WB_SYNC_NONE sync and the
> > WB_SYNC_ALL sync. Identify the first stage with .tagged_writepages and
> > do livelock prevention for it, too.
> > 
> > Note that writeback_inodes_sb() is called by not only sync(), they are
> > treated the same because the other callers also need livelock prevention.
> > 
> > Impact:  It changes the order in which pages/inodes are synced to disk.
> > Now in the WB_SYNC_NONE stage, it won't proceed to write the next inode
> > until finished with the current inode.
> 
> What problem is this patch actually fixing?  It sounds like there's
> some livelock scenario in the WB_SYNC_NONE phase.  otoh the final
> paragraph implies that the WB_SYNC_NONE phase is failing to write some
> pages under some situations.

Problem is: the WB_SYNC_NONE phase has no livelock prevention _at all_.

Jan's commit f446daaea9 ("mm: implement writeback livelock avoidance
using page tagging") is a partial fix in that it only fixed the
WB_SYNC_ALL phase livelock.

Although ext4 is tested to no longer livelock with commit f446daaea9,
it may due to some "redirty_tail() after pages_skipped" effect which
is by no means a guarantee for _all_ the file systems.

> Suggest that the changelog be fleshed out to cover all of this.

OK, I'll add the above two paragraphs to the changelog.

Thanks,
Fengguang

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-07 23:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-07 21:32 [PATCH 00/15] writeback fixes and cleanups for 3.0 (v5) Wu Fengguang
2011-06-07 21:32 ` [PATCH 01/15] writeback: introduce .tagged_writepages for the WB_SYNC_NONE sync stage Wu Fengguang
2011-06-07 23:02   ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-07 23:24     ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2011-06-07 21:32 ` [PATCH 02/15] writeback: update dirtied_when for synced inode to prevent livelock Wu Fengguang
2011-06-07 23:02   ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-07 23:51     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-07 21:32 ` [PATCH 03/15] writeback: introduce writeback_control.inodes_cleaned Wu Fengguang
2011-06-07 23:03   ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-08  0:10     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-07 21:32 ` [PATCH 04/15] writeback: try more writeback as long as something was written Wu Fengguang
2011-06-07 21:32 ` [PATCH 05/15] writeback: the kupdate expire timestamp should be a moving target Wu Fengguang
2011-06-07 21:32 ` [PATCH 06/15] writeback: refill b_io iff empty Wu Fengguang
2011-06-07 21:32 ` [PATCH 07/15] writeback: split inode_wb_list_lock into bdi_writeback.list_lock Wu Fengguang
2011-06-07 23:03   ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-08  0:20     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-08  0:35       ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-08  1:36         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-07 21:32 ` [PATCH 08/15] writeback: elevate queue_io() into wb_writeback() Wu Fengguang
2011-06-07 21:32 ` [PATCH 09/15] writeback: avoid extra sync work at enqueue time Wu Fengguang
2011-06-07 21:32 ` [PATCH 10/15] writeback: add bdi_dirty_limit() kernel-doc Wu Fengguang
2011-06-07 21:32 ` [PATCH 11/15] writeback: skip balance_dirty_pages() for in-memory fs Wu Fengguang
2011-06-11 13:07   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-13 13:42     ` Jan Kara
2011-06-07 21:32 ` [PATCH 12/15] writeback: remove writeback_control.more_io Wu Fengguang
2011-07-11 21:31   ` Hugh Dickins
2011-07-12  6:20     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-07-12 19:50       ` Hugh Dickins
2011-07-13  5:49         ` Hugh Dickins
2011-07-13 10:57           ` Hugh Dickins
2011-07-13 11:19             ` Jan Kara
2011-07-13 15:06               ` Hugh Dickins
2011-07-13 22:07         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-07 21:32 ` [PATCH 13/15] writeback: remove .nonblocking and .encountered_congestion Wu Fengguang
2011-06-07 21:32 ` [PATCH 14/15] writeback: trace event writeback_single_inode Wu Fengguang
2011-06-07 21:32 ` [PATCH 15/15] writeback: trace event writeback_queue_io Wu Fengguang
2011-06-07 23:04 ` [PATCH 00/15] writeback fixes and cleanups for 3.0 (v5) Andrew Morton
2011-06-08  2:01   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-08  6:21     ` Sedat Dilek
2011-06-08 13:45     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-09  1:16       ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-06-09  2:18         ` Wu Fengguang

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