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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] writeback: introduce max-pause and pass-good dirty limits
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:20:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110621172043.51621aa9.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110619150510.367141119@intel.com>

On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 23:01:12 +0800
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:

> The max-pause limit helps to keep the sleep time inside
> balance_dirty_pages() within 200ms. The 200ms max sleep means per task
> rate limit of 8pages/200ms=160KB/s, which normally is enough to stop
> dirtiers from continue pushing the dirty pages high, unless there are
> a sufficient large number of slow dirtiers (ie. 500 tasks doing 160KB/s
> will still sum up to 80MB/s, reaching the write bandwidth of a slow disk).
> 
> The pass-good limit helps to let go of the good bdi's in the presence of
> a blocked bdi (ie. NFS server not responding) or slow USB disk which for
> some reason build up a large number of initial dirty pages that refuse
> to go away anytime soon.

The hard-wired numbers and hard-wired assumptions about device speeds
shouldn't be here at all.  They will be sub-optimal (and sometimes
extremely so) for all cases.  They will become wronger over time.  Or
less wrong, depending upon which way they were originally wrong.

> +		dirty_thresh = hard_dirty_limit(dirty_thresh);
> +		if (nr_dirty < dirty_thresh + dirty_thresh / DIRTY_MAXPAUSE &&
> +		    jiffies - start_time > MAX_PAUSE)
> +			break;
> +		if (nr_dirty < dirty_thresh + dirty_thresh / DIRTY_PASSGOOD &&
> +		    bdi_dirty < bdi_thresh)
> +			break;

It appears that despite their similarity, DIRTY_MAXPAUSE is a
dimensionless value whereas the units of MAX_PAUSE is jiffies.  Perhaps
more care in naming choices would clarify things like this.

The first comparison might be clearer if it used time_after().

Both statements need comments explaining what they do and *why they do
it*.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-22  0:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-19 15:01 [PATCH 0/7] more writeback patches for 3.1 Wu Fengguang
2011-06-19 15:01 ` [PATCH 1/7] writeback: consolidate variable names in balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2011-06-20  7:45   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-19 15:01 ` [PATCH 2/7] writeback: add parameters to __bdi_update_bandwidth() Wu Fengguang
2011-06-19 15:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-19 15:35     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-19 15:01 ` [PATCH 3/7] writeback: introduce smoothed global dirty limit Wu Fengguang
2011-06-19 15:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-19 15:55     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-21 23:59       ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-22 14:11         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-20 21:18   ` Jan Kara
2011-06-21 14:24     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-22  0:04   ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-22 14:24     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-19 15:01 ` [PATCH 4/7] writeback: introduce max-pause and pass-good dirty limits Wu Fengguang
2011-06-22  0:20   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2011-06-23 13:18     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-19 15:01 ` [PATCH 5/7] writeback: make writeback_control.nr_to_write straight Wu Fengguang
2011-06-19 15:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-19 16:14     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-19 15:01 ` [PATCH 6/7] writeback: scale IO chunk size up to half device bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2011-06-19 15:01 ` [PATCH 7/7] writeback: timestamp based bdi dirty_exceeded state Wu Fengguang
2011-06-20 20:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-21 10:00     ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-06-20 21:38   ` Jan Kara
2011-06-21 15:07     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-21 21:14       ` Jan Kara
2011-06-22 14:37         ` Wu Fengguang

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