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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] writeback: timestamp based bdi dirty_exceeded state
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:37:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110622143719.GC4413@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110621211420.GF26195@quack.suse.cz>

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 05:14:20AM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Tue 21-06-11 23:07:52, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 05:38:18AM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > On Sun 19-06-11 23:01:15, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > > When there are only one (or several) dirtiers, dirty_exceeded is always
> > > > (or mostly) off. Converting to timestamp avoids this problem. It helps
> > > > to use smaller write_chunk for smoother throttling.
> > >   Hmm, what do you mean by "dirty_exceeded is always (or mostly) off"? I
> > > agree that dirty_exceeded handling is broken in current kernel when there
> > > are more dirtiers because of tasks having different dirty limits. Is this
> > > the problem you are speaking about?
> > 
> > For the 1-dirty case, it will quit on either of the two conditions
> > 
> > (1) no longer dirty exceeded, or
> > (2) write 1.5 times what it has dirtied
> > 
> > Note that (2) implies (1) because there is only 1 dirtier: if it takes
> > 4MB pages to make it dirty exceeded, it will sure drop out of the dirty
> > exceeded state after cleaned 6MB.
> > 
> > So the 1 dirtier will mostly see dirty_exceeded=0 inside
> > balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited_nr().
> > 
> > However that looks not a big problem. Since there is only 1 dirtier,
> > it will at most get dirty exceeded by 4MB, which is fairly acceptable.
>   Yes, 1 dirtier case works OK.
> 
> > > If yes, I think I have a cleaner fix for that - setting dirty_exceeded
> > > when bdi_dirty enters the range where per-task dirty limits can be and
> > > resetting it only when we leave that range. I can refresh the fix and
> > > send it to you...
> > 
> > Yes there is the per-task dynamic thresholds. However given that the
> > current scheme looks not too bad, maybe we can just do nothing for now
> > and skip this patch?
>   Well, the current scheme has problems already when there are two
> dirtiers. Assume process P1 has threshold T1 and process P2 has threshold
> T2, T1 < T2. P1 first hits the threshold, sets dirty_exceeded and does some
> writeback. Meanwhile P2 still dirties pages, eventually it enters
> balance_dirty_pages() sees threshold T2 is not exceeded and clears
> dirty_exceeded even though threshold T1 still is exceeded. After dirtying
> another 4 MB, P1 enters balance_dirty_pages() again and sets dirty_exceeded
> again.

That's right. Good explanations!

> This way, dirty_exceeded is ping-ponged between 0 and 1 basically in a
> random way. If we are unlucky enough, we can get beyond dirty limit by 4 MB
> for each dirtier instead of 32 KB originally designed...

The worst case is approaching the most light dirtier and randomly
throttle it.

> I already have a fix for this. Do you want me to base it on top of -mm tree
> or your latest writeback series?

OK, please. Whatever base should be fine.

Thanks,
Fengguang

> > > > Before patch, the wait time in balance_dirty_pages() are ~200ms:
> > > > 
> > > > [ 1093.397700] write_bandwidth: comm=swapper pages=1536 time=204ms
> > > > [ 1093.594319] write_bandwidth: comm=swapper pages=1536 time=196ms
> > > > [ 1093.796642] write_bandwidth: comm=swapper pages=1536 time=200ms
> > > > 
> > > > After patch, ~25ms:
> > > > 
> > > > [   90.261339] write_bandwidth: comm=swapper pages=192 time=20ms
> > > > [   90.293168] write_bandwidth: comm=swapper pages=192 time=24ms
> > > > [   90.323853] write_bandwidth: comm=swapper pages=192 time=24ms
> > > > [   90.354510] write_bandwidth: comm=swapper pages=192 time=28ms
> > > > [   90.389890] write_bandwidth: comm=swapper pages=192 time=28ms
> > > > [   90.421787] write_bandwidth: comm=swapper pages=192 time=24ms
> > > > 
> > > >  include/linux/backing-dev.h |    2 +-
> > > >  mm/backing-dev.c            |    2 --
> > > >  mm/page-writeback.c         |   24 ++++++++++++------------
> > > >  3 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
> > > > 
> > > > --- linux-next.orig/mm/page-writeback.c	2011-06-19 22:59:49.000000000 +0800
> > > > +++ linux-next/mm/page-writeback.c	2011-06-19 22:59:53.000000000 +0800
> > > > @@ -483,6 +483,15 @@ unsigned long bdi_dirty_limit(struct bac
> > > >  	return bdi_dirty;
> > > >  }
> > > >  
> > > > +/*
> > > > + * last time exceeded (limit - limit/DIRTY_BRAKE)
> > > > + */
> > > > +static bool dirty_exceeded_recently(struct backing_dev_info *bdi,
> > > > +				    unsigned long time_window)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	return jiffies - bdi->dirty_exceed_time <= time_window;
> > > > +}
> > > > +
> > > >  static void bdi_update_write_bandwidth(struct backing_dev_info *bdi,
> > > >  				       unsigned long elapsed,
> > > >  				       unsigned long written)
> > > > @@ -621,7 +630,6 @@ static void balance_dirty_pages(struct a
> > > >  	unsigned long bdi_thresh;
> > > >  	unsigned long pages_written = 0;
> > > >  	unsigned long pause = 1;
> > > > -	bool dirty_exceeded = false;
> > > >  	struct backing_dev_info *bdi = mapping->backing_dev_info;
> > > >  	unsigned long start_time = jiffies;
> > > >  
> > > > @@ -669,14 +677,9 @@ static void balance_dirty_pages(struct a
> > > >  		 * bdi or process from holding back light ones; The latter is
> > > >  		 * the last resort safeguard.
> > > >  		 */
> > > > -		dirty_exceeded = (bdi_dirty > bdi_thresh) ||
> > > > -				  (nr_dirty > dirty_thresh);
> > > > -
> > > > -		if (!dirty_exceeded)
> > > > +		if (bdi_dirty <= bdi_thresh && nr_dirty <= dirty_thresh)
> > > >  			break;
> > > > -
> > > > -		if (!bdi->dirty_exceeded)
> > > > -			bdi->dirty_exceeded = 1;
> > > > +		bdi->dirty_exceed_time = jiffies;
> > > >  
> > > >  		bdi_update_bandwidth(bdi, dirty_thresh, nr_dirty, bdi_dirty,
> > > >  				     start_time);
> > > > @@ -719,9 +722,6 @@ static void balance_dirty_pages(struct a
> > > >  			pause = HZ / 10;
> > > >  	}
> > > >  
> > > > -	if (!dirty_exceeded && bdi->dirty_exceeded)
> > > > -		bdi->dirty_exceeded = 0;
> > > > -
> > > >  	if (writeback_in_progress(bdi))
> > > >  		return;
> > > >  
> > > > @@ -775,7 +775,7 @@ void balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited_nr(
> > > >  		return;
> > > >  
> > > >  	ratelimit = ratelimit_pages;
> > > > -	if (mapping->backing_dev_info->dirty_exceeded)
> > > > +	if (dirty_exceeded_recently(bdi, MAX_PAUSE))
> > > >  		ratelimit = 8;
> > > >  
> > > >  	/*
> > > > --- linux-next.orig/include/linux/backing-dev.h	2011-06-19 22:54:58.000000000 +0800
> > > > +++ linux-next/include/linux/backing-dev.h	2011-06-19 22:59:53.000000000 +0800
> > > > @@ -79,7 +79,7 @@ struct backing_dev_info {
> > > >  	unsigned long avg_write_bandwidth;
> > > >  
> > > >  	struct prop_local_percpu completions;
> > > > -	int dirty_exceeded;
> > > > +	unsigned long dirty_exceed_time;
> > > >  
> > > >  	unsigned int min_ratio;
> > > >  	unsigned int max_ratio, max_prop_frac;
> > > > --- linux-next.orig/mm/backing-dev.c	2011-06-19 22:59:49.000000000 +0800
> > > > +++ linux-next/mm/backing-dev.c	2011-06-19 22:59:53.000000000 +0800
> > > > @@ -670,8 +670,6 @@ int bdi_init(struct backing_dev_info *bd
> > > >  			goto err;
> > > >  	}
> > > >  
> > > > -	bdi->dirty_exceeded = 0;
> > > > -
> > > >  	bdi->bw_time_stamp = jiffies;
> > > >  	bdi->written_stamp = 0;
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> > > SUSE Labs, CR
> -- 
> Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> SUSE Labs, CR

      reply	other threads:[~2011-06-22 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-19 15:01 [PATCH 0/7] more writeback patches for 3.1 Wu Fengguang
2011-06-19 15:01 ` [PATCH 1/7] writeback: consolidate variable names in balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2011-06-20  7:45   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-19 15:01 ` [PATCH 2/7] writeback: add parameters to __bdi_update_bandwidth() Wu Fengguang
2011-06-19 15:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-19 15:35     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-19 15:01 ` [PATCH 3/7] writeback: introduce smoothed global dirty limit Wu Fengguang
2011-06-19 15:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-19 15:55     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-21 23:59       ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-22 14:11         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-20 21:18   ` Jan Kara
2011-06-21 14:24     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-22  0:04   ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-22 14:24     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-19 15:01 ` [PATCH 4/7] writeback: introduce max-pause and pass-good dirty limits Wu Fengguang
2011-06-22  0:20   ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-23 13:18     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-19 15:01 ` [PATCH 5/7] writeback: make writeback_control.nr_to_write straight Wu Fengguang
2011-06-19 15:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-19 16:14     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-19 15:01 ` [PATCH 6/7] writeback: scale IO chunk size up to half device bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2011-06-19 15:01 ` [PATCH 7/7] writeback: timestamp based bdi dirty_exceeded state Wu Fengguang
2011-06-20 20:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-21 10:00     ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-06-20 21:38   ` Jan Kara
2011-06-21 15:07     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-06-21 21:14       ` Jan Kara
2011-06-22 14:37         ` Wu Fengguang [this message]

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