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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, npiggin@kernel.dk
Subject: Re: ->d_lock FUBAR (was Re: Linux 3.0-rc6)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 03:59:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110713025918.GM11013@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzz3b_FiVXKqq0RfUudyt_T2VWFPBLoKPhMa3fDprmn1w@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 07:40:01PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> It's dentry_lock_for_move() that makes me really nervous. Not only
> does it lock up to four dentries, but it mixes the whole parenthood vs
> pointer ordering.  Or course, it does have those BUG_ON() checks, so
> it should never cause any circular dependencies, but still..

Me too, obviously.

> The actual main protection to get lookups correct in the presence of
> concurrent moves largely depends on the sequence numbers (ie
> d_lookup() retrying if it hits a rename), which is why I also find it
> unlikely that we really should need to hold all those d_lock cases all
> at the same time.
> 
> So does d_move() really need to get all the locks at the same time and
> then do all the operations inside that "super-locked" region? Or could
> we get the locks in sequence and do individual parts of the rename
> operations under individual locks?
> 
> Are there any other d_lock cases that depend on the pointer ordering?
> Most everything else seems to be about direct parenthood, no?

It's not that easy.  We want ->d_lock on parents - not only because
there's code iterating through the list of children, but because
ordering on direct parenthood bloody depends on children not moving
out while we hold ->d_lock on their parent.  Otherwise we are looking
for nightmares in shrink_dcache_parent() et.al.

I'm not sure how much do we care about stability of x->d_parent when
x->d_lock is held.  ->d_compare() is the most obvious potential area
of trouble in that respect, but there might be more.

I'm still not finished reviewing ->d_lock uses; about a couple of hundreds
is left to wade through.  I would really, *REALLY* appreciate explicitly
defined locking rules from Nick (it's his changes, mostly).  As in "this,
this and that field is protected by ->d_lock on..."

Note that ->d_parent is stable when i_mutex is held on parent, which
makes most of the users of ->d_parent safe and fine (->lookup(), etc.
are all called with directory locked).  I've not finished reviewing
->d_parent users either, but IMO ->d_lock review is more important, so
it got bumped in front of queue...

Back to GrepTFS and stripping the paint off the walls...

  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-13  2:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CA+55aFxQw4T07hxz8JSm12x3FOH_Dcf=G5mvLrxiTuLxjbw+Mg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-07-11  6:03 ` Linux 3.0-rc6 Al Viro
2011-07-12 23:48   ` ->d_lock FUBAR (was Re: Linux 3.0-rc6) Al Viro
2011-07-13  0:04     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-13  0:56       ` Al Viro
2011-07-13  1:39         ` Al Viro
2011-07-13  2:40           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-13  2:59             ` Al Viro [this message]
2011-07-13  3:22               ` Al Viro
2011-07-13  3:56                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14  7:21                   ` Al Viro
2011-07-15  4:58                     ` Al Viro
2011-07-13  1:48         ` Linus Torvalds

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