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From: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Cc: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
	Sebastian Krahmer <krahmer@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH] move RLIMIT_NPROC check from set_user() to do_execve_common()
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:26:41 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110715152641.GA6286@albatros> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1310738313.30257.27.camel@moss-pluto>

Hi Stephen,

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 09:58 -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> Does this have implications for Android's zygote model?  There you have
> a long running uid 0 / all caps process (the zygote), which forks itself
> upon receiving a request to spawn an app and then calls

> setgroups();
> setrlimit(); setgid(); setuid();

Is RLIMIT_NPROC forced in your model and setuid() is expected to fail
because of NPROC exceeding?  If no, then it is not touched at all.

> Also, can't setuid() fail under other conditions, e.g. ENOMEM upon
> prepare_creds() allocation failure?  Is it ever reasonable for a program
> to not check setuid() for failure?  Certainly there are plenty of
> examples of programs not doing that, but it isn't clear that this is a
> bug in the kernel.

This thing is better to discuss separately, after the patch is applied.
Shorter, in current implementation it is not possible as mm layer tries
to alloc small structures (less than 8 pages) indefinitely.  cred and
user_struct are less than 64kb, so ENOMEM is impossible.

Thanks,

-- 
Vasiliy Kulikov
http://www.openwall.com - bringing security into open computing environments

  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-15 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]   ` <CA+55aFyfjG1h2zkkGai_VPM8p5bhWhvNXs1HvuWMgxv4RSywYw@mail.gmail.com>
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     [not found]       ` <20110707075610.GA3411@albatros>
     [not found]         ` <20110707081930.GA4393@albatros>
2011-07-12 13:27           ` [PATCH] move RLIMIT_NPROC check from set_user() to do_execve_common() Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-12 21:16             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-12 23:14               ` NeilBrown
2011-07-13  6:31                 ` Solar Designer
2011-07-13  7:06                   ` NeilBrown
2011-07-13 20:46                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-14  0:11                       ` James Morris
2011-07-14  1:27                         ` NeilBrown
2011-07-14 15:06                           ` Solar Designer
2011-07-15  3:30                             ` NeilBrown
2011-07-15  5:35                               ` Willy Tarreau
2011-07-15  6:31                               ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-15  7:06                                 ` NeilBrown
2011-07-15  7:38                                   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-15 13:04                                     ` Solar Designer
2011-07-15 13:58                                     ` [kernel-hardening] " Stephen Smalley
2011-07-15 15:26                                       ` Vasiliy Kulikov [this message]
2011-07-15 19:54                                         ` Stephen Smalley
2011-07-21  4:09                                           ` NeilBrown
2011-07-21 12:48                                             ` Solar Designer
2011-07-21 18:21                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-21 19:39                                                 ` [kernel-hardening] " Solar Designer
2011-07-25 17:14                                                   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-25 23:40                                                     ` [kernel-hardening] " Solar Designer
2011-07-26  0:47                                                       ` NeilBrown
2011-07-26  1:16                                                         ` Solar Designer
2011-07-26  4:11                                                           ` NeilBrown
2011-07-26 14:48                                                             ` [patch v2] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-27  2:15                                                               ` NeilBrown
2011-07-29  7:07                                                                 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-29  8:06                                                               ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-29  8:11                                                                 ` [patch v3] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-29  8:17                                                                   ` James Morris
2011-07-14  1:30                         ` [PATCH] " KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-07-13  5:36             ` KOSAKI Motohiro

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