From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fs / ext3: Always unlock updates in ext3_freeze()
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 00:07:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201108160007.50528.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110815205807.GC16369@quack.suse.cz>
Hi,
On Monday, August 15, 2011, Jan Kara wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Mon 15-08-11 20:09:13, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Monday, August 15, 2011, Jan Kara wrote:
...
> > > It's not so simple as this. Ext3 relies on the mutex (the one hidden in
> > > journal_lock_updates()) to make sure that new transaction cannot be started
> > > while the filesystem is frozen - that's essentially what makes the
> > > filesystem frozen. So if we want to get rid of the mutex we have to achieve
> > > blocking by something else - ext4 uses vfs_check_frozen() in
> > > ext4_journal_start().
> >
> > I see. Still, freeze_bdev() may be called by user space through a syscall,
> > as far as I can say, so it shouldn't leave the mutex locked.
> Yes, I agree with you. That's an ugliness left over from a long time ago.
> I'll have a look at fixing this...
Thanks!
> > > BTW, filesystem freezing never really worked for mmaped writes under
> > > ext3 - ext3 would have to implement page_mkwrite() callback for that - so
> > > if you want to rely on it for suspending, this will be non-trivial.
> >
> > At this point the purpose of freezing filesystems is basically to
> > prevent XFS from deadlocking with hibernation's memory preallocation.
> > For other filesystems it may or may not make a difference depending on
> > their implementation of freeze/unfreeze_super().
> What's exactly the problem? Memory preallocation enters direct reclaim
> and that deadlocks in the filesystem?
Yes, that seems to be the case.
Thanks,
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-15 22:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-11 21:29 [PATCH] Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-08-11 21:31 ` [PATCH] fs / ext3: Always unlock updates in ext3_freeze() Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-08-15 12:22 ` Jan Kara
2011-08-15 18:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-08-15 20:58 ` Jan Kara
2011-08-15 22:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2011-08-16 0:09 ` Dave Chinner
2011-08-16 18:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <20110822130045.GC11264@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
2011-08-22 23:13 ` Dave Chinner
2011-08-23 22:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-08-25 13:49 ` Pavel Machek
2011-08-25 14:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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