From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 12/13] memcg: create support routines for page writeback
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 20:17:14 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110818121714.GA1883@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110818101248.GA12426@quack.suse.cz>
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 06:12:48PM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Thu 18-08-11 10:36:10, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > Subject: squeeze max-pause area and drop pass-good area
> > Date: Tue Aug 16 13:37:14 CST 2011
> >
> > Remove the pass-good area introduced in ffd1f609ab10 ("writeback:
> > introduce max-pause and pass-good dirty limits") and make the
> > max-pause area smaller and safe.
> >
> > This fixes ~30% performance regression in the ext3 data=writeback
> > fio_mmap_randwrite_64k/fio_mmap_randrw_64k test cases, where there are
> > 12 JBOD disks, on each disk runs 8 concurrent tasks doing reads+writes.
> >
> > Using deadline scheduler also has a regression, but not that big as
> > CFQ, so this suggests we have some write starvation.
> >
> > The test logs show that
> >
> > - the disks are sometimes under utilized
> >
> > - global dirty pages sometimes rush high to the pass-good area for
> > several hundred seconds, while in the mean time some bdi dirty pages
> > drop to very low value (bdi_dirty << bdi_thresh).
> > Then suddenly the global dirty pages dropped under global dirty
> > threshold and bdi_dirty rush very high (for example, 2 times higher
> > than bdi_thresh). During which time balance_dirty_pages() is not
> > called at all.
> >
> > So the problems are
> >
> > 1) The random writes progress so slow that they break the assumption of
> > the max-pause logic that "8 pages per 200ms is typically more than
> > enough to curb heavy dirtiers".
> >
> > 2) The max-pause logic ignored task_bdi_thresh and thus opens the
> > possibility for some bdi's to over dirty pages, leading to
> > (bdi_dirty >> bdi_thresh) and then (bdi_thresh >> bdi_dirty) for others.
> >
> > 3) The higher max-pause/pass-good thresholds somehow leads to some bad
> > swing of dirty pages.
> >
> > The fix is to allow the task to slightly dirty over task_bdi_thresh, but
> > no way to exceed bdi_dirty and/or global dirty_thresh.
> >
> > Tests show that it fixed the JBOD regression completely (both behavior
> > and performance), while still being able to cut down large pause times
> > in balance_dirty_pages() for single-disk cases.
> >
> > Reported-by: Li Shaohua <shaohua.li@intel.com>
> > Tested-by: Li Shaohua <shaohua.li@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> > ---
> > include/linux/writeback.h | 11 -----------
> > mm/page-writeback.c | 15 ++-------------
> > 2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-)
> >
> > --- linux.orig/mm/page-writeback.c 2011-08-18 09:52:59.000000000 +0800
> > +++ linux/mm/page-writeback.c 2011-08-18 10:28:57.000000000 +0800
> > @@ -786,21 +786,10 @@ static void balance_dirty_pages(struct a
> > * 200ms is typically more than enough to curb heavy dirtiers;
> > * (b) the pause time limit makes the dirtiers more responsive.
> > */
> > - if (nr_dirty < dirty_thresh +
> > - dirty_thresh / DIRTY_MAXPAUSE_AREA &&
> > + if (nr_dirty < dirty_thresh &&
> > + bdi_dirty < (task_bdi_thresh + bdi_thresh) / 2 &&
> > time_after(jiffies, start_time + MAX_PAUSE))
> > break;
> This looks definitely much safer than the original patch since we now
> always observe global dirty limit.
Yeah.
> I just wonder: We have throttled the
> task because bdi_nr_reclaimable > task_bdi_thresh.
Not necessarily. It's possible (bdi_nr_reclaimable < task_bdi_thresh)
for the whole loop. And the 200ms pause that trigger the above test
may totally come from the io_schedule_timeout() calls.
> Now in practice there
> should be some pages under writeback and this task should have submitted
> even more just a while ago. So the condition
> bdi_dirty < (task_bdi_thresh + bdi_thresh) / 2
I guess the writeback_inodes_wb() call is irrelevant for the above
test, because writeback_inodes_wb() transfers reclaimable pages to
writeback pages, with the total bdi_dirty value staying the same.
Not to mention the fact that both the bdi_dirty and bdi_nr_reclaimable
variables have not been updated between writeback_inodes_wb() and the
max-pause test.
> looks still relatively weak. Shouldn't there be
> bdi_nr_reclaimable < (task_bdi_thresh + bdi_thresh) / 2?
That's much easier condition to satisfy..
> Since bdi_nr_reclaimable is really the number we want to limit...
> Alternatively, I could see also a reason for
> bdi_dirty < task_bdi_thresh
> which leaves the task pages under writeback as the pausing area. But since
> these are not really well limited, I'd prefer my first suggestion.
Thanks,
Fengguang
> > - /*
> > - * pass-good area. When some bdi gets blocked (eg. NFS server
> > - * not responding), or write bandwidth dropped dramatically due
> > - * to concurrent reads, or dirty threshold suddenly dropped and
> > - * the dirty pages cannot be brought down anytime soon (eg. on
> > - * slow USB stick), at least let go of the good bdi's.
> > - */
> > - if (nr_dirty < dirty_thresh +
> > - dirty_thresh / DIRTY_PASSGOOD_AREA &&
> > - bdi_dirty < bdi_thresh)
> > - break;
> >
> > /*
> > * Increase the delay for each loop, up to our previous
> > --- linux.orig/include/linux/writeback.h 2011-08-16 23:34:27.000000000 +0800
> > +++ linux/include/linux/writeback.h 2011-08-18 09:53:03.000000000 +0800
> > @@ -12,15 +12,6 @@
> > *
> > * (thresh - thresh/DIRTY_FULL_SCOPE, thresh)
> > *
> > - * The 1/16 region above the global dirty limit will be put to maximum pauses:
> > - *
> > - * (limit, limit + limit/DIRTY_MAXPAUSE_AREA)
> > - *
> > - * The 1/16 region above the max-pause region, dirty exceeded bdi's will be put
> > - * to loops:
> > - *
> > - * (limit + limit/DIRTY_MAXPAUSE_AREA, limit + limit/DIRTY_PASSGOOD_AREA)
> > - *
> > * Further beyond, all dirtier tasks will enter a loop waiting (possibly long
> > * time) for the dirty pages to drop, unless written enough pages.
> > *
> > @@ -31,8 +22,6 @@
> > */
> > #define DIRTY_SCOPE 8
> > #define DIRTY_FULL_SCOPE (DIRTY_SCOPE / 2)
> > -#define DIRTY_MAXPAUSE_AREA 16
> > -#define DIRTY_PASSGOOD_AREA 8
> >
> > /*
> > * 4MB minimal write chunk size
> --
> Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> SUSE Labs, CR
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-17 16:14 [PATCH v9 00/13] memcg: per cgroup dirty page limiting Greg Thelen
2011-08-17 16:14 ` [PATCH v9 01/13] memcg: document cgroup dirty memory interfaces Greg Thelen
2011-08-17 16:14 ` [PATCH v9 02/13] memcg: add page_cgroup flags for dirty page tracking Greg Thelen
2011-08-17 16:14 ` [PATCH v9 03/13] memcg: add dirty page accounting infrastructure Greg Thelen
2011-08-18 0:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-18 6:07 ` Greg Thelen
2011-08-17 16:14 ` [PATCH v9 04/13] memcg: add kernel calls for memcg dirty page stats Greg Thelen
2011-08-17 16:14 ` [PATCH v9 05/13] memcg: add mem_cgroup_mark_inode_dirty() Greg Thelen
2011-08-18 0:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-17 16:14 ` [PATCH v9 06/13] memcg: add dirty limits to mem_cgroup Greg Thelen
2011-08-18 0:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-17 16:14 ` [PATCH v9 07/13] memcg: add cgroupfs interface to memcg dirty limits Greg Thelen
2011-08-18 0:55 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-17 16:15 ` [PATCH v9 08/13] memcg: dirty page accounting support routines Greg Thelen
2011-08-18 1:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-18 7:04 ` Greg Thelen
2011-08-17 16:15 ` [PATCH v9 09/13] memcg: create support routines for writeback Greg Thelen
2011-08-18 1:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-17 16:15 ` [PATCH v9 10/13] writeback: pass wb_writeback_work into move_expired_inodes() Greg Thelen
2011-08-18 1:15 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-17 16:15 ` [PATCH v9 11/13] writeback: make background writeback cgroup aware Greg Thelen
2011-08-18 1:23 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-18 7:10 ` Greg Thelen
2011-08-18 7:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-18 7:38 ` Greg Thelen
2011-08-18 7:35 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-17 16:15 ` [PATCH v9 12/13] memcg: create support routines for page writeback Greg Thelen
2011-08-18 1:38 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-18 2:36 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-18 10:12 ` Jan Kara
2011-08-18 12:17 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2011-08-18 20:08 ` Jan Kara
2011-08-19 1:36 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-17 16:15 ` [PATCH v9 13/13] memcg: check memcg dirty limits in " Greg Thelen
2011-08-18 1:40 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-18 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 00/13] memcg: per cgroup dirty page limiting KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
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