From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on redirty
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 09:18:46 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110907011846.GB6513@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110907002222.GF31945@quack.suse.cz>
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On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 08:22:22AM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Tue 06-09-11 18:18:56, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Sun, 2011-09-04 at 09:53 +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > De-account the accumulative dirty counters on page redirty.
> > >
> > > Page redirties (very common in ext4) will introduce mismatch between
> > > counters (a) and (b)
> > >
> > > a) NR_DIRTIED, BDI_DIRTIED, tsk->nr_dirtied
> > > b) NR_WRITTEN, BDI_WRITTEN
> > >
> > > This will introduce systematic errors in balanced_rate and result in
> > > dirty page position errors (ie. the dirty pages are no longer balanced
> > > around the global/bdi setpoints).
> > >
> >
> > So wtf is ext4 doing? Shouldn't a page stay dirty until its written out?
> >
> > That is, should we really frob around this behaviour or fix ext4 because
> > its on crack?
> Fengguang, could you please verify your findings with recent kernel? I
> believe ext4 got fixed in this regard some time ago already (and yes, old
> delalloc writeback code in ext4 was terrible).
Jan, attached is the results for 3.1-rc4, before and after this patchset.
The test case is ext4, 1 dd, bs=4k, dirty_bytes=1GB.
Judging from global_dirtied_written.png, the dirtied/written lines are
still departing away from each other...
Thanks,
Fengguang
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-07 1:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-04 1:53 [PATCH 00/18] IO-less dirty throttling v11 Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 01/18] writeback: account per-bdi accumulated dirtied pages Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 02/18] writeback: dirty position control Wu Fengguang
2011-09-05 15:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 2:10 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-05 15:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 2:43 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 18:20 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-09-08 2:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-12 5:44 ` Nai Xia
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 03/18] writeback: dirty rate control Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 11:57 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 04/18] writeback: stabilize bdi->dirty_ratelimit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 05/18] writeback: per task dirty rate limit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 15:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 23:27 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-06 23:34 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 7:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 1:04 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 7:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 11:00 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 06/18] writeback: IO-less balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 12:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 2:46 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 07/18] writeback: dirty ratelimit - think time compensation Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 08/18] writeback: trace dirty_ratelimit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 09/18] writeback: trace balance_dirty_pages Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 10/18] writeback: dirty position control - bdi reserve area Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 12:31 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-18 14:17 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-18 14:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-18 14:47 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-28 14:02 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-28 14:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-29 3:32 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 8:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-29 11:05 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 12:15 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 11/18] block: add bdi flag to indicate risk of io queue underrun Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 2:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 7:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 12/18] writeback: balanced_rate cannot exceed write bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 13/18] writeback: limit max dirty pause time Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 2:35 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-18 14:23 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 14/18] writeback: control " Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 2:02 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 15/18] writeback: charge leaked page dirties to active tasks Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 16:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 9:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 0:17 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 9:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 16/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on sub-page writes Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 17/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on redirty Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 16:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 0:22 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 1:18 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2011-09-07 6:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-07 8:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 16:42 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 16:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-08 8:51 ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 18/18] btrfs: fix dirtied pages accounting on sub-page writes Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 13:32 ` [PATCH 00/18] IO-less dirty throttling v11 Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 19:14 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-09-28 14:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-29 4:11 ` Wu Fengguang
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