From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 15/18] writeback: charge leaked page dirties to active tasks
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 17:37:12 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110907093712.GB13841@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110907001742.GE31945@quack.suse.cz>
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On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 08:17:42AM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Sun 04-09-11 09:53:20, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > It's a years long problem that a large number of short-lived dirtiers
> > (eg. gcc instances in a fast kernel build) may starve long-run dirtiers
> > (eg. dd) as well as pushing the dirty pages to the global hard limit.
> I don't think it's years long problem. When we do per-cpu ratelimiting,
> short lived processes have the same chance (proportional to the number of
> pages dirtied) of hitting balance_dirty_pages() as long-run dirtiers have.
You are right in that all tasks will hit balance_dirty_pages().
However the caveat is, short lived tasks will see higher
task_bdi_thresh and hence immediately break out of the loop based on
condition !dirty_exceeded.
> So this problem seems to be introduced by your per task dirty ratelimiting?
> But given that you kept per-cpu ratelimiting in the end, is this still an
> issue?
The per-cpu ratelimit now (see "writeback: per task dirty rate limit")
only serves to backup the per-task ratelimit in case the latter fails.
In particular, the per-cpu thresh will typically be much higher than
the per-task thresh and the per-cpu counter will be reset each time
balance_dirty_pages() is called. So in practice the per-cpu thresh
will hardly trigger balance_dirty_pages(), which is exactly the
desired behavior: it will only kick in when the per-task thresh is not
working effectively due to sudden start of too many tasks.
> Do you have some numbers for this patch?
Good question! When trying to do so, I find it only works as expected
after applying this fix (well the zero current->dirty_paused_when
issue once hit my mind and unfortunately slip off later...):
@@ -1103,7 +1103,10 @@ static void balance_dirty_pages(struct a
task_ratelimit = (u64)dirty_ratelimit *
pos_ratio >> RATELIMIT_CALC_SHIFT;
period = (HZ * pages_dirtied) / (task_ratelimit | 1);
- pause = current->dirty_paused_when + period - now;
+ if (current->dirty_paused_when)
+ pause = current->dirty_paused_when + period - now;
+ else
+ pause = period;
/*
* For less than 1s think time (ext3/4 may block the dirtier
* for up to 800ms from time to time on 1-HDD; so does xfs,
The test case is to run one normal dd and two series of short lived dd's:
dd $DD_OPTS bs=${bs:-1M} if=/dev/zero of=$mnt/zero-$i &
(
file=$mnt/zero-append
touch $file
while test -f $file
do
dd $DD_OPTS oflag=append conv=notrunc if=/dev/zero of=$file bs=8k count=8
done
) &
(
file=$mnt/zero-append-2
touch $file
while test -f $file
do
dd $DD_OPTS oflag=append conv=notrunc if=/dev/zero of=$file bs=8k count=8
done
) &
The attached figures show the behaviors before/after patch. Without
patch, the dirty pages hits @limit and bdi->dirty_ratelimit hits 1;
with the patch, the position&rate balances are effectively restored.
Thanks,
Fengguang
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-07 9:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-04 1:53 [PATCH 00/18] IO-less dirty throttling v11 Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 01/18] writeback: account per-bdi accumulated dirtied pages Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 02/18] writeback: dirty position control Wu Fengguang
2011-09-05 15:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 2:10 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-05 15:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 2:43 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 18:20 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-09-08 2:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-12 5:44 ` Nai Xia
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 03/18] writeback: dirty rate control Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 11:57 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 04/18] writeback: stabilize bdi->dirty_ratelimit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 05/18] writeback: per task dirty rate limit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 15:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 23:27 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-06 23:34 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 7:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 1:04 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 7:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 11:00 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 06/18] writeback: IO-less balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 12:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 2:46 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 07/18] writeback: dirty ratelimit - think time compensation Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 08/18] writeback: trace dirty_ratelimit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 09/18] writeback: trace balance_dirty_pages Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 10/18] writeback: dirty position control - bdi reserve area Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 12:31 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-18 14:17 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-18 14:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-18 14:47 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-28 14:02 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-28 14:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-29 3:32 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 8:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-29 11:05 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 12:15 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 11/18] block: add bdi flag to indicate risk of io queue underrun Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 2:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 7:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 12/18] writeback: balanced_rate cannot exceed write bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 13/18] writeback: limit max dirty pause time Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 2:35 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-18 14:23 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 14/18] writeback: control " Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 2:02 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 15/18] writeback: charge leaked page dirties to active tasks Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 16:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 9:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 0:17 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 9:37 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 16/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on sub-page writes Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 17/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on redirty Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 16:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 0:22 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 1:18 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 6:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-07 8:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 16:42 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 16:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-08 8:51 ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 18/18] btrfs: fix dirtied pages accounting on sub-page writes Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 13:32 ` [PATCH 00/18] IO-less dirty throttling v11 Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 19:14 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-09-28 14:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-29 4:11 ` Wu Fengguang
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