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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>, Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Leonardo Chiquitto <leonardo.lists@gmail.com>,
	autofs@linux.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfs: automount should ignore LOOKUP_FOLLOW
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 20:50:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110908195043.GV2203@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFy3VN2Y-oadFUMdCaBVQtPT9Ae3fDQCw5vHfA6UvH8GiA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:42:28AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> > You say it's a step in the right direction but I don't see why. ?Either
> > we want stat *and* lstat to both be correct and trigger the automount or
> > we are satisfied with the incorrect but well established practice of not
> > triggering on (l)stat.
> >
> > The middle ground makes no sense IMO, there's nothing gained by the
> > differentiated behavior based on LOOKUP_FOLLOW.
> >
> > Can you explain why it's better if stat() tiggers automounts and gives a
> > correct result but lstat() doesn't?
> 
> I have to say that this is a very cogent question.
> 
> The one thing I've not seen in the thread yet is a description of the
> failure. What does the regression look like? Just "very slow 'ls' with
> some versions of 'ls'" or what?
> 
> I'm inclined to apply the patch as a regression fix, but I'll let this
> thread try to convince me for another day..

IIRC, that matches traditional SunOS behaviour and it actually does make
sense; you want wildcard expansion and ls -l to be doable even when there's
a stuck NFS server.  IOW, non-triggering lstat(2) is a matter of usability...

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-08 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-05 16:06 [PATCH] vfs: automount should ignore LOOKUP_FOLLOW Miklos Szeredi
2011-09-05 16:37 ` David Howells
2011-09-05 17:02   ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-09-06  3:53     ` Ian Kent
2011-09-06  4:03       ` Ian Kent
2011-09-06  8:09       ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-09-06 14:38         ` Ian Kent
2011-09-06 15:39           ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-09-08 12:36             ` Ian Kent
2011-09-08 13:38               ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-09-08 17:42                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-09-08 19:50                   ` Al Viro [this message]
2011-09-08 20:19                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-09-08 21:54                       ` Al Viro
2011-09-09  3:37                         ` Ian Kent
2011-09-09  3:33                   ` Ian Kent
2011-09-09  3:18                 ` Ian Kent
2011-09-22 12:29 ` Jeff Layton

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