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From: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>
To: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, robertmhaas@gmail.com,
	pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Improve lseek scalability v3
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:08:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110916200817.GD28519@kvack.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201109161927.34472.andres@anarazel.de>

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 07:27:33PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote:
> many tuples does the table have. Those statistics are only updated every now 
> and then though.
> So it uses those old stats to check how many tuples are normally stored on a 
> page and then uses that to extrapolate the number of tuples from the current 
> nr of pages (which is computed by lseek(SEEK_END) over the 1GB segements of a 
> table).
> 
> I am not sure how interested you are on the relevant postgres internals?

For such tables, can't Postgres track the size of the file internally?  I'm 
assuming it's keeping file descriptors open on the tables it manages, in 
which case when it writes to a file to extend it, the internally stored size 
could be updated.  Not making a syscall at all would scale far better than 
even a modified lseek() will perform.

Granted, I've not looked at the Postgres code at all.

		-ben

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-16 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-15 23:06 Improve lseek scalability v3 Andi Kleen
2011-09-15 23:06 ` [PATCH 1/7] BTRFS: Fix lseek return value for error Andi Kleen
2011-09-15 23:47   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-09-16 15:48   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-16 16:38     ` Andi Kleen
2011-09-17  6:10     ` Jeff Liu
2011-09-17 23:03       ` Andreas Dilger
2011-09-18  1:46         ` Andi Kleen
2011-09-18  7:29           ` Jeff Liu
2011-09-18  8:42             ` Marco Stornelli
2011-09-18 10:33               ` Jeff liu
2011-09-18 14:55                 ` Chris Mason
2011-09-19 17:52                   ` Andi Kleen
2011-09-19 19:30                     ` Chris Mason
2011-09-19 19:59                       ` Andi Kleen
2011-09-19 22:55                         ` Chris Mason
2011-09-15 23:06 ` [PATCH 2/7] VFS: Do (nearly) lockless generic_file_llseek Andi Kleen
2011-09-15 23:06 ` [PATCH 3/7] VFS: Make generic lseek lockless safe Andi Kleen
2011-09-15 23:06 ` [PATCH 4/7] VFS: Add generic_file_llseek_size Andi Kleen
2011-09-16 15:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-15 23:06 ` [PATCH 5/7] LSEEK: EXT4: Replace cut'n'pasted llseek code with generic_file_llseek_size Andi Kleen
2011-09-15 23:06 ` [PATCH 6/7] LSEEK: NFS: Drop unnecessary locking in llseek Andi Kleen
2011-09-15 23:06 ` [PATCH 7/7] LSEEK: BTRFS: Avoid i_mutex for SEEK_{CUR,SET,END} Andi Kleen
2011-09-16 13:00 ` Improve lseek scalability v3 Matthew Wilcox
2011-09-16 13:19   ` Josef Bacik
2011-09-16 14:16   ` Andres Freund
2011-09-16 14:23     ` Andi Kleen
2011-09-16 14:41       ` Andres Freund
2011-09-16 15:36     ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-09-16 17:27       ` Andres Freund
2011-09-16 17:39         ` Alvaro Herrera
2011-09-16 17:50           ` [HACKERS] " Andi Kleen
2011-09-16 20:08         ` Benjamin LaHaise [this message]
2011-09-16 21:02           ` Andres Freund
2011-09-16 21:05             ` [HACKERS] " Andres Freund
2011-09-16 22:44           ` Greg Stark
2011-09-19 12:31           ` Stephen Frost
2011-09-19 13:25             ` [HACKERS] " Matthew Wilcox
2011-09-20  7:18               ` Marco Stornelli
2011-09-19 13:30             ` Robert Haas
2011-09-16 14:26   ` Andres Freund
2011-10-01 20:46 ` Andres Freund
2011-10-01 20:49   ` [PATCH 1/2] LSEEK: BTRFS: Avoid i_mutex for SEEK_{CUR,SET,END} Andres Freund
2011-11-02  8:29     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-05 15:27       ` Chris Mason
2012-03-07 17:16         ` Andres Freund
2011-10-01 20:50   ` [PATCH 2/2] btrfs: Don't have multiple paths to error out in btrfs_file_llseek Andres Freund
2011-10-02  5:28   ` Improve lseek scalability v3 Andi Kleen

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