From: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
To: Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Cc: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>,
Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, robertmhaas@gmail.com,
pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Improve lseek scalability v3
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 07:25:00 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110919132500.GA16740@parisc-linux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110919123100.GJ12765@tamriel.snowman.net>
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 08:31:00AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Benjamin LaHaise (bcrl@kvack.org) wrote:
> > For such tables, can't Postgres track the size of the file internally? I'm
> > assuming it's keeping file descriptors open on the tables it manages, in
> > which case when it writes to a file to extend it, the internally stored size
> > could be updated. Not making a syscall at all would scale far better than
> > even a modified lseek() will perform.
>
> We'd have to have it in shared memory and have a lock around it, it
> wouldn't be cheap at all.
Yep, that makes perfect sense. After all, the kernel does basically the
same thing to maintain this information; why should we have userspace
duplicating the same infrastructure?
I must admit, I'd never heard of this usage of lseek to get the current
size of a file before; I'd assumed everybody used fstat. Given this
legitimate reason for a high-frequency calling of lseek, I withdraw my
earlier objection to the patch series.
--
Matthew Wilcox Intel Open Source Technology Centre
"Bill, look, we understand that you're interested in selling us this
operating system, but compare it to ours. We can't possibly take such
a retrograde step."
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-19 13:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-15 23:06 Improve lseek scalability v3 Andi Kleen
2011-09-15 23:06 ` [PATCH 1/7] BTRFS: Fix lseek return value for error Andi Kleen
2011-09-15 23:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-09-16 15:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-16 16:38 ` Andi Kleen
2011-09-17 6:10 ` Jeff Liu
2011-09-17 23:03 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-09-18 1:46 ` Andi Kleen
2011-09-18 7:29 ` Jeff Liu
2011-09-18 8:42 ` Marco Stornelli
2011-09-18 10:33 ` Jeff liu
2011-09-18 14:55 ` Chris Mason
2011-09-19 17:52 ` Andi Kleen
2011-09-19 19:30 ` Chris Mason
2011-09-19 19:59 ` Andi Kleen
2011-09-19 22:55 ` Chris Mason
2011-09-15 23:06 ` [PATCH 2/7] VFS: Do (nearly) lockless generic_file_llseek Andi Kleen
2011-09-15 23:06 ` [PATCH 3/7] VFS: Make generic lseek lockless safe Andi Kleen
2011-09-15 23:06 ` [PATCH 4/7] VFS: Add generic_file_llseek_size Andi Kleen
2011-09-16 15:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-15 23:06 ` [PATCH 5/7] LSEEK: EXT4: Replace cut'n'pasted llseek code with generic_file_llseek_size Andi Kleen
2011-09-15 23:06 ` [PATCH 6/7] LSEEK: NFS: Drop unnecessary locking in llseek Andi Kleen
2011-09-15 23:06 ` [PATCH 7/7] LSEEK: BTRFS: Avoid i_mutex for SEEK_{CUR,SET,END} Andi Kleen
2011-09-16 13:00 ` Improve lseek scalability v3 Matthew Wilcox
2011-09-16 13:19 ` Josef Bacik
2011-09-16 14:16 ` Andres Freund
2011-09-16 14:23 ` Andi Kleen
2011-09-16 14:41 ` Andres Freund
2011-09-16 15:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-09-16 17:27 ` Andres Freund
2011-09-16 17:39 ` Alvaro Herrera
2011-09-16 17:50 ` [HACKERS] " Andi Kleen
2011-09-16 20:08 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2011-09-16 21:02 ` Andres Freund
2011-09-16 21:05 ` [HACKERS] " Andres Freund
2011-09-16 22:44 ` Greg Stark
2011-09-19 12:31 ` Stephen Frost
2011-09-19 13:25 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2011-09-20 7:18 ` [HACKERS] " Marco Stornelli
2011-09-19 13:30 ` Robert Haas
2011-09-16 14:26 ` Andres Freund
2011-10-01 20:46 ` Andres Freund
2011-10-01 20:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] LSEEK: BTRFS: Avoid i_mutex for SEEK_{CUR,SET,END} Andres Freund
2011-11-02 8:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-05 15:27 ` Chris Mason
2012-03-07 17:16 ` Andres Freund
2011-10-01 20:50 ` [PATCH 2/2] btrfs: Don't have multiple paths to error out in btrfs_file_llseek Andres Freund
2011-10-02 5:28 ` Improve lseek scalability v3 Andi Kleen
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