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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/18] writeback: dirty position control - bdi reserve area
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 22:02:05 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110928140205.GA26617@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110918144751.GA18645@localhost>

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Hi Peter,

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:47:51PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > BTW, I also compared the IO-less patchset and the vanilla kernel's
> > JBOD performance. Basically, the performance is lightly improved
> > under large memory, and reduced a lot in small memory servers.
> > 
> >  vanillla IO-less  
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [...]
> >  26508063 17706200      -33.2%  JBOD-10HDD-thresh=100M/xfs-100dd-1M-16p-5895M-100M
> >  23767810 23374918       -1.7%  JBOD-10HDD-thresh=100M/xfs-10dd-1M-16p-5895M-100M
> >  28032891 20659278      -26.3%  JBOD-10HDD-thresh=100M/xfs-1dd-1M-16p-5895M-100M
> >  26049973 22517497      -13.6%  JBOD-10HDD-thresh=100M/xfs-2dd-1M-16p-5895M-100M
> > 
> > There are still some itches in JBOD..
> 
> OK, in the dirty_bytes=100M case, I find that the bdi threshold _and_
> writeout bandwidth may drop close to 0 in long periods. This change
> may avoid one bdi being stuck:
> 
>         /*
>          * bdi reserve area, safeguard against dirty pool underrun and disk idle
>          *
>          * It may push the desired control point of global dirty pages higher
>          * than setpoint. It's not necessary in single-bdi case because a
>          * minimal pool of @freerun dirty pages will already be guaranteed.
>          */
> -       x_intercept = min(write_bw, freerun);
> +       x_intercept = min(write_bw + MIN_WRITEBACK_PAGES, freerun);

After lots of experiments, I end up with this bdi reserve point

+       x_intercept = bdi_thresh / 2 + MIN_WRITEBACK_PAGES;

together with this chunk to avoid a bdi stuck in bdi_thresh=0 state:

@@ -590,6 +590,7 @@ static unsigned long bdi_position_ratio(
         */
        if (unlikely(bdi_thresh > thresh))
                bdi_thresh = thresh;
+       bdi_thresh = max(bdi_thresh, (limit - dirty) / 8);
        /*
         * scale global setpoint to bdi's:
         *      bdi_setpoint = setpoint * bdi_thresh / thresh

The above changes are good enough to keep reasonable amount of bdi
dirty pages, so the bdi underrun flag ("[PATCH 11/18] block: add bdi
flag to indicate risk of io queue underrun") is dropped.

I also tried various bdi freerun patches, however the results are not
satisfactory. Basically the bdi reserve area approach (this patch)
yields noticeably more smooth/resilient behavior than the
freerun/underrun approaches. I noticed that the bdi underrun flag
could lead to sudden surge of dirty pages (especially if not
safeguarded by the dirty_exceeded condition) in the very small
window..

To dig performance increases/drops out of the large number of test
results, I wrote a convenient script (attached) to compare the
vmstat:nr_written numbers between 2+ set of test runs. It helped a lot
for fine tuning the parameters for different cases.

The current JBOD performance numbers are encouraging:

$ ./compare.rb JBOD*/*-vanilla+ JBOD*/*-bgthresh3+
      3.1.0-rc4-vanilla+      3.1.0-rc4-bgthresh3+
------------------------  ------------------------
                52934365        +3.2%     54643527  JBOD-10HDD-thresh=100M/ext4-100dd-1M-24p-16384M-100M:10-X
                45488896       +18.2%     53785605  JBOD-10HDD-thresh=100M/ext4-10dd-1M-24p-16384M-100M:10-X
                47217534       +12.2%     53001031  JBOD-10HDD-thresh=100M/ext4-1dd-1M-24p-16384M-100M:10-X
                32286924       +25.4%     40492312  JBOD-10HDD-thresh=100M/xfs-10dd-1M-24p-16384M-100M:10-X
                38676965       +14.2%     44177606  JBOD-10HDD-thresh=100M/xfs-1dd-1M-24p-16384M-100M:10-X
                59662173       +11.1%     66269621  JBOD-10HDD-thresh=800M/ext4-10dd-1M-24p-16384M-800M:10-X
                57510438        +2.3%     58855181  JBOD-10HDD-thresh=800M/ext4-1dd-1M-24p-16384M-800M:10-X
                63691922       +64.0%    104460352  JBOD-10HDD-thresh=800M/xfs-100dd-1M-24p-16384M-800M:10-X
                51978567       +16.0%     60298210  JBOD-10HDD-thresh=800M/xfs-10dd-1M-24p-16384M-800M:10-X
                47641062        +6.4%     50681038  JBOD-10HDD-thresh=800M/xfs-1dd-1M-24p-16384M-800M:10-X

The common single disk cases also see good numbers except for slight
drops in the dirty_bytes=100MB case:

$ ./compare.rb thresh*/*vanilla+ thresh*/*bgthresh3+
      3.1.0-rc4-vanilla+      3.1.0-rc4-bgthresh3+  
------------------------  ------------------------  
                 4092719        -2.5%      3988742  thresh=100M/ext4-10dd-4k-8p-4096M-100M:10-X
                 4956323        -4.0%      4758884  thresh=100M/ext4-1dd-4k-8p-4096M-100M:10-X
                 4640118        -0.4%      4621240  thresh=100M/ext4-2dd-4k-8p-4096M-100M:10-X
                 3545136        -3.5%      3420717  thresh=100M/xfs-10dd-4k-8p-4096M-100M:10-X
                 4399437        -0.9%      4361830  thresh=100M/xfs-1dd-4k-8p-4096M-100M:10-X
                 4100655        -3.3%      3964043  thresh=100M/xfs-2dd-4k-8p-4096M-100M:10-X
                 4780624        -0.1%      4776216  thresh=1G/ext4-10dd-4k-8p-4096M-1024M:10-X
                 4904565        +0.0%      4905293  thresh=1G/ext4-1dd-4k-8p-4096M-1024M:10-X
                 3578539        +9.1%      3903390  thresh=1G/xfs-10dd-4k-8p-4096M-1024M:10-X
                 4029890        +0.8%      4063717  thresh=1G/xfs-1dd-4k-8p-4096M-1024M:10-X
                 2449031       +20.0%      2937926  thresh=1M/ext4-10dd-4k-8p-4096M-1M:10-X
                 4161896        +7.5%      4472552  thresh=1M/ext4-1dd-4k-8p-4096M-1M:10-X
                 3437787       +18.8%      4085707  thresh=1M/ext4-2dd-4k-8p-4096M-1M:10-X
                 1921914       +14.8%      2206897  thresh=1M/xfs-10dd-4k-8p-4096M-1M:10-X
                 2537481       +65.8%      4207336  thresh=1M/xfs-1dd-4k-8p-4096M-1M:10-X
                 3329176       +12.3%      3739888  thresh=1M/xfs-2dd-4k-8p-4096M-1M:10-X
                 4587856        +1.8%      4672501  thresh=400M-300M/ext4-10dd-4k-8p-4096M-400M:300M-X
                 4883525        +0.0%      4884957  thresh=400M-300M/ext4-1dd-4k-8p-4096M-400M:300M-X
                 4799105        +2.3%      4907525  thresh=400M-300M/ext4-2dd-4k-8p-4096M-400M:300M-X
                 3931315        +3.0%      4048277  thresh=400M-300M/xfs-10dd-4k-8p-4096M-400M:300M-X
                 4238389        +3.9%      4401927  thresh=400M-300M/xfs-1dd-4k-8p-4096M-400M:300M-X
                 4032798        +2.3%      4123838  thresh=400M-300M/xfs-2dd-4k-8p-4096M-400M:300M-X
                 2425253       +35.2%      3279302  thresh=8M/ext4-10dd-4k-8p-4096M-8M:10-X
                 4728506        +2.2%      4834878  thresh=8M/ext4-1dd-4k-8p-4096M-8M:10-X
                 2782860       +62.1%      4511120  thresh=8M/ext4-2dd-4k-8p-4096M-8M:10-X
                 1966133       +24.3%      2443874  thresh=8M/xfs-10dd-4k-8p-4096M-8M:10-X
                 4238402        +1.7%      4308416  thresh=8M/xfs-1dd-4k-8p-4096M-8M:10-X
                 3299446       +13.3%      3739810  thresh=8M/xfs-2dd-4k-8p-4096M-8M:10-X

Thanks,
Fengguang

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-28 14:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-04  1:53 [PATCH 00/18] IO-less dirty throttling v11 Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 01/18] writeback: account per-bdi accumulated dirtied pages Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 02/18] writeback: dirty position control Wu Fengguang
2011-09-05 15:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06  2:10     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-05 15:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06  2:43     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 18:20   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-09-08  2:53     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-12  5:44   ` Nai Xia
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 03/18] writeback: dirty rate control Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 11:57   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 04/18] writeback: stabilize bdi->dirty_ratelimit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 05/18] writeback: per task dirty rate limit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 15:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 23:27     ` Jan Kara
2011-09-06 23:34       ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07  7:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  1:04     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07  7:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 11:00         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 06/18] writeback: IO-less balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 12:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  2:46     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 07/18] writeback: dirty ratelimit - think time compensation Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 08/18] writeback: trace dirty_ratelimit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 09/18] writeback: trace balance_dirty_pages Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 10/18] writeback: dirty position control - bdi reserve area Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 12:31     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-18 14:17         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-18 14:37           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-18 14:47             ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-28 14:02               ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2011-09-28 14:50                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-29  3:32                   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29  8:49                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-29 11:05                       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 12:15                 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 11/18] block: add bdi flag to indicate risk of io queue underrun Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  2:37     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07  7:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 12/18] writeback: balanced_rate cannot exceed write bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 13/18] writeback: limit max dirty pause time Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  2:35     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-18 14:23         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 14/18] writeback: control " Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 15:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  2:02     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:28       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 15/18] writeback: charge leaked page dirties to active tasks Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 16:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  9:06     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07  0:17   ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07  9:37     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 16/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on sub-page writes Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 17/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on redirty Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 16:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  0:22     ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07  1:18       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07  6:56       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-07  8:19         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 16:42           ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 16:46             ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-08  8:51               ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 18/18] btrfs: fix dirtied pages accounting on sub-page writes Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 13:32 ` [PATCH 00/18] IO-less dirty throttling v11 Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 19:14   ` Trond Myklebust
2011-09-28 14:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-29  4:11   ` Wu Fengguang

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