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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] IO-less dirty throttling v11
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:11:24 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110929041124.GB21722@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110928145857.GA15587@infradead.org>

Hi Christoph,

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:58:57PM +0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 09:53:05AM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Finally, the complete IO-less balance_dirty_pages(). NFS is observed to perform
> > better or worse depending on the memory size. Otherwise the added patches can
> > address all known regressions.
> > 
> >         git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/wfg/writeback.git dirty-throttling-v11
> > 	(to be updated; currently it contains a pre-release v11)
> 
> Fengguang,
> 
> is there any chance we could start doing just the IO-less
> balance_dirty_pages, but not all the subtile other changes?  I.e. are
> the any known issues that make things work than current mainline if we
> only put in patches 1 to 6?

Patches 1-6 are the bare IO-less framework, the followed patches are

1) tracing for easy debug
2) regression fixes (eg. under-utilized disk in small memory systems)
3) improvements

My recent focus is trying to measure and fix the various regressions.
Up to now the JBOD regressions have been addressed and single disk
performance also looks good.

NFS throughputs are observed to drop/rise somehow randomly in
different cases and cannot be fixed fundamentally with the trivial
approaches I've experimented.

3.1.0-rc4-vanilla+  3.1.0-rc4-bgthresh3+  3.1.0-rc4-nfs-smooth+
------------------  --------------------  ---------------------

           3459793   -33.2%      2310900     +2.4%      3543478  NFS-thresh=1G/nfs-10dd-1M-32p-32768M-1024M:10-X
           3371104   -32.8%      2265584    -13.9%      2902573  NFS-thresh=1G/nfs-1dd-1M-32p-32768M-1024M:10-X
           2798005   +13.4%      3171975    +21.4%      3395410  NFS-thresh=1G/nfs-2dd-1M-32p-32768M-1024M:10-X

           1641479   +13.9%      1869541    +52.7%      2506587  NFS-thresh=100M/nfs-10dd-1M-32p-32768M-100M:10-X
           3036860   -19.4%      2447633    -32.1%      2063006  NFS-thresh=100M/nfs-1dd-1M-32p-32768M-100M:10-X
           2050746   +19.8%      2456601    +28.4%      2634044  NFS-thresh=100M/nfs-2dd-1M-32p-32768M-100M:10-X

           1042855    +2.7%      1070893     +0.9%      1052112  NFS-thresh=10M/nfs-10dd-1M-32p-32768M-10M:10-X
           2106794   -41.6%      1231128    -54.6%       957305  NFS-thresh=10M/nfs-1dd-1M-32p-32768M-10M:10-X
           2034313   -40.4%      1212212    -51.7%       982609  NFS-thresh=10M/nfs-2dd-1M-32p-32768M-10M:10-X

            239379                     0    +10.2%       263894  NFS-thresh=1M/nfs-10dd-1M-32p-32768M-1M:10-X
            521149   -42.3%       300872    +13.9%       593485  NFS-thresh=1M/nfs-1dd-1M-32p-32768M-1M:10-X
            564565                     0    -49.6%       284397  NFS-thresh=1M/nfs-2dd-1M-32p-32768M-1M:10-X

> We're getting close to another merge window, and we're still busy
> trying to figure out all the details of the bandwith estimation.  I
> think we'd have a much more robust tree if we'd first only merge the
> infrastructure (IO-less balance_dirty_pages()) and then work on the
> algorithms separately.

Agreed.  Let me sort out the minimal set of patches that can still
maintain the vanilla kernel performance, plus the tracing patches.

Thanks,
Fengguang

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      reply	other threads:[~2011-09-29  4:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-04  1:53 [PATCH 00/18] IO-less dirty throttling v11 Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 01/18] writeback: account per-bdi accumulated dirtied pages Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 02/18] writeback: dirty position control Wu Fengguang
2011-09-05 15:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06  2:10     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-05 15:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06  2:43     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 18:20   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-09-08  2:53     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-12  5:44   ` Nai Xia
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 03/18] writeback: dirty rate control Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 11:57   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 04/18] writeback: stabilize bdi->dirty_ratelimit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 05/18] writeback: per task dirty rate limit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 15:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 23:27     ` Jan Kara
2011-09-06 23:34       ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07  7:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  1:04     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07  7:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 11:00         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 06/18] writeback: IO-less balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 12:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  2:46     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 07/18] writeback: dirty ratelimit - think time compensation Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 08/18] writeback: trace dirty_ratelimit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 09/18] writeback: trace balance_dirty_pages Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 10/18] writeback: dirty position control - bdi reserve area Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 12:31     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-18 14:17         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-18 14:37           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-18 14:47             ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-28 14:02               ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-28 14:50                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-29  3:32                   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29  8:49                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-29 11:05                       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 12:15                 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 11/18] block: add bdi flag to indicate risk of io queue underrun Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  2:37     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07  7:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 12/18] writeback: balanced_rate cannot exceed write bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 13/18] writeback: limit max dirty pause time Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  2:35     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-18 14:23         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 14/18] writeback: control " Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 15:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  2:02     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:28       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 15/18] writeback: charge leaked page dirties to active tasks Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 16:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  9:06     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07  0:17   ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07  9:37     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 16/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on sub-page writes Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 17/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on redirty Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 16:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  0:22     ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07  1:18       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07  6:56       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-07  8:19         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 16:42           ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 16:46             ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-08  8:51               ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 18/18] btrfs: fix dirtied pages accounting on sub-page writes Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 13:32 ` [PATCH 00/18] IO-less dirty throttling v11 Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 19:14   ` Trond Myklebust
2011-09-28 14:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-29  4:11   ` Wu Fengguang [this message]

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