From: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
xfs@oss.sgi.com, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 3/5] mm: try to distribute dirty pages fairly across zones
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:55:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110930085539.GD30857@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOJsxLFWfH5zDG8ui=yQyOcZY_nXhK6r+ziapLg9Zhmb3ibuWQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:35:25AM +0300, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> Hi Johannes!
>
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com> wrote:
> > But there is a flaw in that we have a zoned page allocator which does
> > not care about the global state but rather the state of individual
> > memory zones. And right now there is nothing that prevents one zone
> > from filling up with dirty pages while other zones are spared, which
> > frequently leads to situations where kswapd, in order to restore the
> > watermark of free pages, does indeed have to write pages from that
> > zone's LRU list. This can interfere so badly with IO from the flusher
> > threads that major filesystems (btrfs, xfs, ext4) mostly ignore write
> > requests from reclaim already, taking away the VM's only possibility
> > to keep such a zone balanced, aside from hoping the flushers will soon
> > clean pages from that zone.
>
> The obvious question is: how did you test this? Can you share the results?
Meh, sorry about that, they were in the series introduction the last
time and I forgot to copy them over.
I did single-threaded, linear writing to an USB stick as the effect is
most pronounced with slow backing devices.
[ The write deferring on ext4 because of delalloc is so extreme that I
could trigger it even with simple linear writers on a mediocre
rotating disk, though. I can not access the logfiles right now, but
the nr_vmscan_writes went practically away here as well and runtime
was unaffected with the patched kernel. ]
Test results
15M DMA + 3246M DMA32 + 504M Normal = 3765M memory
40% dirty ratio, 10% background ratio
16G USB thumb drive
10 runs of dd if=/dev/zero of=disk/zeroes bs=32k count=$((10 << 15))
seconds nr_vmscan_write
(stddev) min| median| max
xfs
vanilla: 549.747( 3.492) 0.000| 0.000| 0.000
patched: 550.996( 3.802) 0.000| 0.000| 0.000
fuse-ntfs
vanilla: 1183.094(53.178) 54349.000| 59341.000| 65163.000
patched: 558.049(17.914) 0.000| 0.000| 43.000
btrfs
vanilla: 573.679(14.015) 156657.000| 460178.000| 606926.000
patched: 563.365(11.368) 0.000| 0.000| 1362.000
ext4
vanilla: 561.197(15.782) 0.000|2725438.000|4143837.000
patched: 568.806(17.496) 0.000| 0.000| 0.000
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-30 8:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-30 7:17 [patch 0/5] per-zone dirty limits v3 Johannes Weiner
2011-09-30 7:17 ` [patch 1/5] mm: exclude reserved pages from dirtyable memory Johannes Weiner
2011-09-30 13:53 ` Michal Hocko
2011-10-01 7:10 ` Minchan Kim
2011-10-03 11:22 ` Mel Gorman
2011-09-30 7:17 ` [patch 2/5] mm: writeback: cleanups in preparation for per-zone dirty limits Johannes Weiner
2011-09-30 13:56 ` Michal Hocko
2011-09-30 7:17 ` [patch 3/5] mm: try to distribute dirty pages fairly across zones Johannes Weiner
2011-09-30 7:35 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-30 8:55 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2011-09-30 14:28 ` Michal Hocko
2011-10-28 20:18 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-10-31 11:33 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-01 10:55 ` Johannes Weiner
[not found] ` <20111027155618.GA25524@localhost>
[not found] ` <20111027161359.GA1319@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <20111027204743.GA19343@localhost>
[not found] ` <20111027221258.GA22869@localhost>
[not found] ` <20111027231933.GB1319@redhat.com>
2011-10-28 20:39 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-01 10:52 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-09-30 7:17 ` [patch 4/5] mm: filemap: pass __GFP_WRITE from grab_cache_page_write_begin() Johannes Weiner
2011-09-30 14:41 ` Michal Hocko
2011-09-30 7:17 ` [patch 5/5] Btrfs: pass __GFP_WRITE for buffered write page allocations Johannes Weiner
2011-10-03 11:25 ` Mel Gorman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-11-23 13:34 [patch 0/5] mm: per-zone dirty limits v3-resend Johannes Weiner
2011-11-23 13:34 ` [patch 3/5] mm: try to distribute dirty pages fairly across zones Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24 1:07 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-24 13:11 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-25 1:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
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