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From: Jeremy Allison <jra@samba.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	"k-mio@sx.jp.nec.com" <k-mio@sx.jp.nec.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] fs: Make write(2) interruptible by a signal
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:44:06 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111114184406.GB5493@samba2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111114153047.GL5230@quack.suse.cz>

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 04:30:47PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Mon 14-11-11 07:16:26, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 01:34:46PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > On Mon 14-11-11 20:15:56, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > > > @@ -2407,6 +2407,10 @@ static ssize_t generic_perform_write(struct file *file,
> > > > >  						iov_iter_count(i));
> > > > >  
> > > > >  again:
> > > > > +		if (signal_pending(current)) {
> > > > 
> > > > signal_pending looks more useful than fatal_signal_pending in that it
> > > > covers normal signals too. However it's exactly the broader coverage
> > > > that makes it an interface change -- will this possibly break casually
> > > > written applications?
> > >   Yeah, this is upto discussion. Historically, write() (or any other system
> > > call) could have returned EINTR. In fact, write() to a socket can return
> > > EINTR even now. But you are right that we didn't return EINTR from write()
> > > to a regular file. So if you prefer to never return EINTR from a write to a
> > > regular file, I can change the check since I'm also slightly worried that
> > > some badly written app can notice.
> > 
> > No, this is not up for discussion.  You can't return short writes (or
> > reads).  This is why the 'fatal_signal_pending' API exists -- if the
> > signal is fatal, the task is never returned to, so its bug (not checking
> > the return from read/write) is not exposed.
>   By "can't return" you mean userspace need not be expecting it so we
> shouldn't break it or is there some standard which forbids it? Just
> curious...

This *WILL* break userspace code if you return short writes on a
filesystem fd. Guarenteed. I originally wrote code in Samba to
take care of it back before I learned the difference between
"slow" and "fast" interruptable system calls (see W.R.Stevens
for details).

Don't return short writes or reads on a filesystem fd.

Jeremy.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-14 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-14 11:10 [PATCH 0/2] Make task doing heavy writing killable Jan Kara
2011-11-14 11:10 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: Make task in balance_dirty_pages() killable Jan Kara
2011-11-14 12:12   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-14 12:37     ` Jan Kara
2011-11-14 11:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] fs: Make write(2) interruptible by a signal Jan Kara
2011-11-14 12:12   ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-11-14 12:15   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-14 12:34     ` Jan Kara
2011-11-14 14:16       ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-11-14 15:30         ` Jan Kara
2011-11-14 18:44           ` Jeremy Allison [this message]
2011-11-14 11:59 ` [PATCH 0/2] Make task doing heavy writing killable Wu Fengguang
2011-11-14 12:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-14 12:24     ` Jan Kara
2011-11-14 12:29     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-14 12:41       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-14 13:01         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-14 15:28           ` Jan Kara
2011-11-14 15:32             ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-14 16:19               ` Jan Kara
2011-11-14 12:12   ` Jan Kara
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-11-14 16:15 [PATCH 0/2 v2] Make task in balance_dirty_pages() killable Jan Kara
2011-11-14 16:15 ` [PATCH 2/2] fs: Make write(2) interruptible by a signal Jan Kara
2011-11-14 16:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-14 16:46     ` Jan Kara
2011-11-14 20:13       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-14 22:19   ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-15 11:23     ` Jan Kara
2011-11-16 11:12 [PATCH 0/2 v3] Make task in balance_dirty_pages() killable Jan Kara
2011-11-16 11:12 ` [PATCH 2/2] fs: Make write(2) interruptible by a signal Jan Kara
2011-11-16 11:44   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-16 12:54     ` Jan Kara
2011-11-16 13:11       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-22 22:28     ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-23  9:05       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-23  9:50         ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-23 13:08         ` Jan Kara
2011-11-23 13:27           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-23 15:06             ` Theodore Tso
2011-11-28  3:08               ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-29 14:16                 ` Jan Kara

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