From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] fs: Make write(2) interruptible by a signal
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:05:33 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111123090533.GA22420@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111122142805.4e59faae.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 06:28:05AM +0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:44:21 +0800
> Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
>
> > Due to the (very low) possibility of data loss by partial writes, IMHO
> > it would safer to test this patch in linux-next until next merge window,
>
> Any such bugs will not be discovered in linux-next testing.
Yup, I'm afraid.
> The only way to find these things in a reasonable period of time is to
> go in and find them. For example, intensive fsx-linux testing with
> concurrent heavy memory pressure on various filesystems with various
> block sizes. And of course concurrent signalling. If you're talking
> about O_DIRECT then iirc I hacked support for that into fsx-linux. I
> think.
How are we going to measure the success/failure? Check if it
eventually resulted in filesystem corruption or whatever?
When received SIGKILL, fsx-linux itself will just die.
> Anyway, what _are_ the scenarios in which we think data can be lost?
It's the vision that there may be partial writes on SIGKILL. Before
patch, the write will either succeed as a whole or not started at
all, depending on the timing of write/SIGKILL. This is kind of atomic
operation. However now the write can be half done.
If the application really cares about atomic behavior, it can do
create-and-rename. However there are always the possibility of broken
applications.
Maybe this is not that big problem as SIGKILL is considered be to
destructive already.
Thanks,
Fengguang
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-23 9:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-16 11:12 [PATCH 0/2 v3] Make task in balance_dirty_pages() killable Jan Kara
2011-11-16 11:12 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: " Jan Kara
2011-11-16 11:28 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-16 12:58 ` Jan Kara
2011-11-16 11:12 ` [PATCH 2/2] fs: Make write(2) interruptible by a signal Jan Kara
2011-11-16 11:44 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-16 12:54 ` Jan Kara
2011-11-16 13:11 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-22 22:28 ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-23 9:05 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2011-11-23 9:50 ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-23 12:27 ` [PATCH 2/2] " Theodore Tso
2011-11-23 20:29 ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-24 19:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-11-24 20:53 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-11-25 0:10 ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-11-24 20:53 ` Jan Kara
2011-11-23 13:08 ` [PATCH 2/2] fs: " Jan Kara
2011-11-23 13:27 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-23 15:06 ` Theodore Tso
2011-11-28 3:08 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-28 3:33 ` [PATCH] writeback: add a safety limit to the SIGKILL abort Wu Fengguang
2011-11-29 14:18 ` Jan Kara
2011-11-29 14:16 ` [PATCH 2/2] fs: Make write(2) interruptible by a signal Jan Kara
2011-11-16 11:23 ` [PATCH 0/2 v3] Make task in balance_dirty_pages() killable Wu Fengguang
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-11-14 16:15 [PATCH 0/2 v2] " Jan Kara
2011-11-14 16:15 ` [PATCH 2/2] fs: Make write(2) interruptible by a signal Jan Kara
2011-11-14 16:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-14 16:46 ` Jan Kara
2011-11-14 20:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-14 22:19 ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-15 11:23 ` Jan Kara
2011-11-14 11:10 [PATCH 0/2] Make task doing heavy writing killable Jan Kara
2011-11-14 11:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] fs: Make write(2) interruptible by a signal Jan Kara
2011-11-14 12:12 ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-11-14 12:15 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-14 12:34 ` Jan Kara
2011-11-14 14:16 ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-11-14 15:30 ` Jan Kara
2011-11-14 18:44 ` Jeremy Allison
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