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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ankit Jain <radical@gmail.com>,
	Christian Ehrhardt <ehrhardt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Nikanth Karthikesan <knikanth@suse.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] readahead: make default readahead size a kernel parameter
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:39:22 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111128023922.GA2141@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111125003633.GP2386@dastard>

On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 08:36:33AM +0800, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:28:22PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Mon 21-11-11 19:35:40, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 06:01:37PM +0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 05:18:21PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > > > From: Nikanth Karthikesan <knikanth@suse.de>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Add new kernel parameter "readahead=", which allows user to override
> > > > > the static VM_MAX_READAHEAD=128kb.
> > > > 
> > > > Is a boot-time paramter really such a good idea?  I would at least
> > > 
> > > It's most convenient to set at boot time, because the default size
> > > will be used to initialize all the block devices.
> > > 
> > > > make it a sysctl so that it's run-time controllable, including
> > > > beeing able to set it from initscripts.
> > > 
> > > Once boot up, it's more natural to set the size one by one, for
> > > example
> > > 
> > >         blockdev --setra 1024 /dev/sda2
> > > or
> > >         echo 512 > /sys/block/sda/queue/read_ahead_kb
> > > 
> > > And you still have the chance to modify the global default, but the
> > > change will only be inherited by newly created devices thereafter:
> > > 
> > >         echo 512 > /sys/devices/virtual/bdi/default/read_ahead_kb
> > > 
> > > The above command is very suitable for use in initscripts.  However
> > > there are no natural way to do sysctl as there is no such a global
> > > value.
> >   Well, you can always have an udev rule to set read_ahead_kb to whatever
> > you want. In some respect that looks like a nicer solution to me...
> 
> And one that has already been in use for exactly this purpose for
> years. Indeed, it's far more flexible because you can give different
> types of devices different default readahead settings quite easily,
> and it you can set different defaults for just about any tunable
> parameter (e.g. readahead, ctq depth, max IO sizes, etc) in the same
> way.

I'm interested in this usage, too. Would you share some of your rules?

> Hence I don't think we should treat default readahead any
> differently from any other configurable storage parameter - we've
> already got places to change the per-device defaults to something
> sensible at boot/discovery time....

OK, I'll drop this patch.

Thanks,
Fengguang

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-28  2:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-21  9:18 [PATCH 0/8] readahead stats/tracing, backwards prefetching and more Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21  9:18 ` [PATCH 1/8] block: limit default readahead size for small devices Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 10:00   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-21 11:24     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 12:47     ` Andi Kleen
2011-11-21 14:46   ` Jeff Moyer
2011-11-21 22:52   ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-22 14:23     ` Jeff Moyer
2011-11-23 12:18     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21  9:18 ` [PATCH 2/8] readahead: make default readahead size a kernel parameter Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 10:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-21 11:35     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-24 22:28       ` Jan Kara
2011-11-25  0:36         ` Dave Chinner
2011-11-28  2:39           ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2011-11-30 13:04             ` Christian Ehrhardt
2011-11-30 13:29               ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-30 16:09                 ` Jan Kara
2011-11-21 13:16   ` Namhyung Kim
2011-11-21 13:24     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21  9:18 ` [PATCH 3/8] readahead: replace ra->mmap_miss with ra->ra_flags Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 11:04   ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-11-21 11:42     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 23:01   ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-23 12:47     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-23 20:31       ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-29  3:42         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21  9:18 ` [PATCH 4/8] readahead: record readahead patterns Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 23:19   ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-29  2:40     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21  9:18 ` [PATCH 5/8] readahead: add /debug/readahead/stats Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 14:17   ` Andi Kleen
2011-11-22 14:14     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 23:29   ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-21 23:32     ` Andi Kleen
2011-11-29  3:23     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-29  4:49       ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-29  6:41         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-29 12:29           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21  9:18 ` [PATCH 6/8] readahead: add debug tracing event Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 14:01   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-21  9:18 ` [PATCH 7/8] readahead: basic support for backwards prefetching Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 23:33   ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-29  3:08     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21  9:18 ` [PATCH 8/8] readahead: dont do start-of-file readahead after lseek() Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 23:36   ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-22 14:18     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21  9:56 ` [PATCH 0/8] readahead stats/tracing, backwards prefetching and more Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-21 12:00   ` Wu Fengguang

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