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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
To: Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Al Viro <viro-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-scsi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-scsi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-fsdevel
	<linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Joel Becker <jlbec-aKy9MeLSZ9dg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	James Bottomley
	<James.Bottomley-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: copy offload support in Linux - new system call needed?
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:27:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111214222723.GD7623@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EE8FC2E.3010207-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 02:42:38PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote:
> On 12/14/2011 02:27 PM, Al Viro wrote:
> >On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 02:22:07PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote:
> >
> >>We had an active thread a couple of years back that came out of the
> >>reflink work and, at the time, there seemed to be moderately
> >>positive support for adding a new system call that would fit this
> >>use case (Joel Becker's copyfile()).
> >>
> >>Can we resurrect this effort? Is copyfile() still a good way to go,
> >>or should we look at other hooks?
> >copyfile(2) is probably a good way to go, provided that we do _not_
> >go baroque as it had happened the last time syscall had been discussed.
> >
> >IOW, to hell with progress reports, etc. - just a fastpath kind of
> >thing, in the same kind of relationship to cp(1) as rename(2) is to mv(1).
> >If it works - fine, if not - caller has to be ready to deal with handling
> >cross-device case anyway.
> 
> I think that this approach makes a lot of sense. Most of the
> devices/targets that support the copy offload, will do it in very
> reasonable amounts of time.

The current NFSv4.2 draft rolls both the "fast" and "slow" cases into
one operation:

	http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nfsv4-minorversion2-06#section-2
 
Perhaps we should ask for separate operations for the two cases.  (Or at
least a "please don't bother if this is going to take 8 hours" flag....)

--b.

> 
> Let me see if I can dig up some of the presentations from the NetApp
> guys who presented overviews or the specifications from the IETF and
> T10....
> 
> Ric
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-12-14 22:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-14 19:22 copy offload support in Linux - new system call needed? Ric Wheeler
2011-12-14 19:27 ` Al Viro
     [not found]   ` <20111214192739.GN2203-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-14 19:42     ` Ric Wheeler
     [not found]       ` <4EE8FC2E.3010207-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-14 22:27         ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2011-12-15 14:59           ` Trond Myklebust
2011-12-15 15:52             ` Chris Mason
2011-12-15 16:00               ` Trond Myklebust
2011-12-15 16:03               ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]                 ` <20111215110330.33aed3a6-xSBYVWDuneFaJnirhKH9O4GKTjYczspe@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-15 16:06                   ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                     ` <1323965176.14317.11.camel-SyLVLa/KEI9HwK5hSS5vWB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-15 16:16                       ` Jeff Layton
2011-12-15 16:38                         ` Trond Myklebust
2011-12-15 16:08             ` Loke, Chetan
     [not found]               ` <D3F292ADF945FB49B35E96C94C2061B91516E391-2s2rCY1e8UXHBhWB4kaBDUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-15 16:11                 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-12-15 16:40                   ` Loke, Chetan
2011-12-15 16:53                     ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                       ` <1323968015.14317.28.camel-SyLVLa/KEI9HwK5hSS5vWB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-15 17:18                         ` Ric Wheeler
2011-12-15 17:25                           ` Trond Myklebust
2011-12-15 17:31                           ` Loke, Chetan
2011-12-15 17:55                             ` Ric Wheeler
2011-12-15 17:27                         ` Loke, Chetan
     [not found]             ` <1323961140.14317.2.camel-SyLVLa/KEI9HwK5hSS5vWB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-15 17:44               ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-12-16  8:00       ` Joel Becker
2011-12-14 19:59 ` Jeremy Allison
2011-12-14 20:30   ` Ric Wheeler
2011-12-19 12:38     ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-12-19 22:19   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-12-19 22:34     ` Jeremy Allison
2011-12-19 22:57     ` Dave Chinner
2011-12-19 23:29       ` H. Peter Anvin

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