From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Nick Bowler <nbowler@elliptictech.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Federica Teodori <federica.teodori@googlemail.com>,
Lucian Adrian Grijincu <lucian.grijincu@gmail.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
Dan Rosenberg <drosenberg@vsecurity.com>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2012.1] fs: symlink restrictions on sticky directories
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 08:34:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120106073456.GB14188@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F065704.4020306@redhat.com>
* Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 01/05/2012 03:55 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
> >On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Nick Bowler<nbowler@elliptictech.com> wrote:
>
> >>But this is a brand new feature that changes longstanding behaviour of
> >>various syscalls. Making it default to enabled is rather mean to users
> >>(since it will tend to get enabled by "oldconfig") and seems almost
> >>guaranteed to cause regressions.
> >
> > I couldn't disagree more. There has been zero evidence of
> > this change causing anything but regressions in _attacks_.
> > :P If anything, I think there should be no CONFIG and no
> > sysctl, and it should be entirely non-optional. But since
> > this patch needs consensus, I have provided knobs to control
> > it.
>
> I agree with you, Kees.
>
> The behaviour introduced by this patch should produce so few
> issues, that the new behaviour should probably be on by
> default.
Up to the point people report regressions.
And yes, I think Kees is perfectly right that the setting of the
default should be evidence based. (Assuming Al and Linus is fine
with the whole concept.)
The only specific counter-argument I can see is the spinlock
performance impact I raised during review. I think we can (and
should) live with that, and it's probably fixable, BYMMV.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-06 7:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-04 20:18 [PATCH v2012.1] fs: symlink restrictions on sticky directories Kees Cook
2012-01-05 9:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-05 19:36 ` Kees Cook
2012-01-06 7:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-06 9:21 ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-06 9:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-06 9:58 ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-06 10:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-06 10:33 ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-06 11:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-06 18:34 ` Kees Cook
2012-01-06 18:44 ` Kees Cook
2012-01-05 14:30 ` Nick Bowler
2012-01-05 19:34 ` Kees Cook
2012-01-05 20:08 ` Nick Bowler
2012-01-05 20:55 ` Kees Cook
2012-01-05 22:18 ` Nick Bowler
2012-01-06 0:08 ` Kees Cook
2012-01-06 2:05 ` Rik van Riel
2012-01-06 7:34 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2012-01-06 7:10 ` Ingo Molnar
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