From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Surbhi Palande <csurbhi@gmail.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>,
Kamal Mostafa <kamal@canonical.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>, Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Valerie Aurora <val@vaaconsulting.com>,
Christopher Chaltain <christopher.chaltain@canonical.com>,
"Peter M. Petrakis" <peter.petrakis@canonical.com>,
Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
Surbhi Palande <surbhi.palande@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/7] Adding support to freeze and unfreeze a journal
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 01:51:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120111005119.GA24005@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMBkX3e_jyTZ=i8D8_cza23Xygd+Gf5iACZ+hbo5TaYLrJPH-Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue 10-01-12 16:13:46, Surbhi Palande wrote:
> >> If all the write operations were journaled, then this patch would not allow
> >> ext4 filesystem to have any dirty data after its frozen.
> >> (as journal_start() would block).
> >>
> >> I think the only one candidate that creates dirty data without calling
> >> ext4_journal_start() is mmapped?
> > No, the problem is in any write path. The problem is with operations
> > that happen during the phase when s_frozen == SB_FREEZE_WRITE. These
> > operations dirty the filesystem but running sync may easily miss them.
> > During this phase journal is not frozen so that does not help you in any
> > way.
> >
> > Honza
>
> Ok! No new transaction can really start after the journal is frozen.
> But we can have dirty data after SB_FREEZE_WRITE and before
> SB_FREEZE_TRANS.
> I agree with you. However, can this be fixed by adding a
> sync_filesystem() in freeze_super() after the sb->s_op->freeze_fs() is
> over?
The problem with this is that to do writeback you need to start a
transaction. So you would deadlock.
> So then essentially, when freeze_super() returns, the page cache is clean?
>
> I do definitely agree that the fix is to add a lock for mutual
> exclusion between freeze filesystem and writes to a frozen filesystem.
Yes, that would be the cleanest solution but it's quite some work.
Honza
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-11 0:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-08 18:04 [PATCH v2 0/7] fix s_umount thaw/write and journal deadlock Kamal Mostafa
2011-12-08 18:04 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] Adding support to freeze and unfreeze a journal Kamal Mostafa
2012-01-10 20:20 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-01-10 21:31 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-10 21:55 ` Surbhi Palande
[not found] ` <CAMBkX3eVeKSmEzmYTe6Oe_D6kAMQTL5LYoi1-Axj7CcrM85Pow@mail.gmail.com>
2012-01-11 0:04 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-11 0:13 ` Surbhi Palande
2012-01-11 0:51 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2012-01-11 3:08 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-01-10 22:00 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-12-08 18:04 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] Freeze and thaw the journal on ext4 freeze Kamal Mostafa
2012-01-06 0:32 ` Jan Kara
2011-12-08 18:04 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] VFS: Fix s_umount thaw/write deadlock Kamal Mostafa
2012-01-06 1:50 ` Jan Kara
2011-12-08 18:04 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] VFS: Rename and refactor writeback_inodes_sb_if_idle Kamal Mostafa
2011-12-13 3:34 ` Miao Xie
2011-12-15 7:10 ` Miao Xie
2011-12-16 20:48 ` Kamal Mostafa
2012-01-06 0:33 ` Jan Kara
2011-12-08 18:04 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] VFS: Avoid read-write deadlock in try_to_writeback_inodes_sb Kamal Mostafa
2012-01-06 0:35 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-11 20:29 ` Kamal Mostafa
2012-01-12 15:53 ` Mikulas Patocka
2011-12-08 18:04 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] VFS: Document s_frozen state through freeze_super Kamal Mostafa
2012-01-06 0:36 ` Jan Kara
2011-12-08 18:04 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] Documentation: Correct s_umount state for freeze_fs/unfreeze_fs Kamal Mostafa
2012-01-06 0:36 ` Jan Kara
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