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From: Roger Leigh <rleigh-l88Q8xmqi7wqcZcGjlUOXw@public.gmane.org>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers-tD+1rO4QERM@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Karel Zak <kzak-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	util-linux-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: /etc/fstab.d yes or not
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 16:22:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120120162220.GN8797@codelibre.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPXgP13a9v+f1uNdpe-c+aApLfLpgn15b1-gZxRPd0wMvU=B-Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 05:13:12PM +0100, Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 16:49, Roger Leigh <rleigh-l88Q8xmqi7wqcZcGjlUOXw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 03:04:44PM +0100, Karel Zak wrote:
> >>  I'd like to add support for /etc/fstab.d to libmount. The library is
> >>  currently used by mount, umount and mount.nfs. The goal is to use it
> >>  on more places.
> >>
> >>  The /etc/fstab.d directory has been requested by people who maintains
> >>  large number of mountpoints etc.
> >>
> >>  The directory is not replacement for /etc/fstab, it's additional place
> >>  where you can describe your filesystems.
> >
> > As a general comment, I would like to use fstab.d for replacing
> > the initscripts which mount kernel filesystems in Debian initscripts
> > (sysvinit).  We currently hardcode the logic to mount each filesystem
> > and additionally hardcode the defaults, and permit the defaults to
> > be overridden by the user via /etc/default/* or via entries in
> > /etc/fstab.  This could be done much more straightforwardly using
> > entries such as /etc/fstab.d/kernfs and /etc/fstab.d/tmpfs etc.
> 
> It is just very wrong to expose kernel filesystems to system mounts.
> Please invent your own config if you want that for packaging. The
> kernel filesystems do not belong in fstab, and for the same reason not
> in fstab.d/.

To be fair, these can be split into two categories: kernel filesystems
such as procfs, sysfs etc., and special-purpose tmpfs mounts.  The
former could be kept in the init scripts, but the latter are commonly
required to be customised (or disabled) by admins, and the fstab format
is the natural way to express this.  This would include tmpfs mounts
for e.g. /run, /run/lock, /run/shm, potentially /tmp] and others, each
of which has separate limits.

Inventing custom file formats for these (as is the current situation)
is both opaque to the admin and less amenable to preservation/upgrading
of the admins customisations and the defaults.


Regards,
Roger

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-20 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-20 14:04 /etc/fstab.d yes or not Karel Zak
2012-01-20 14:20 ` Masatake YAMATO
2012-01-20 14:56   ` Kay Sievers
2012-01-20 15:57     ` Roger Leigh
2012-01-20 16:08       ` Kay Sievers
     [not found]     ` <CAPXgP10uUpSQzX0RzYY24uDBkNkRXM7NbR0H6P=dZ=+LxdX3Fw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-24  0:19       ` Boaz Harrosh
     [not found]         ` <4F1DF90C.5070108-C4P08NqkoRlBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-24  9:47           ` bastien ROUCARIES
2012-01-20 14:43 ` Attila Kinali
     [not found]   ` <20120120154309.3ae5f9e4a8f55c477dc423ab-HB9FjVmMKa7tRgLqZ5aouw@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-20 14:59     ` Karel Zak
2012-01-20 15:03       ` Voelker, Bernhard
     [not found]       ` <20120120145907.GA20377-s5vVilr7EKH/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-20 15:20         ` Kay Sievers
     [not found] ` <20120120140444.GC13157-s5vVilr7EKH/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-20 15:49   ` Roger Leigh
2012-01-20 16:13     ` Kay Sievers
     [not found]       ` <CAPXgP13a9v+f1uNdpe-c+aApLfLpgn15b1-gZxRPd0wMvU=B-Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-20 16:22         ` Roger Leigh [this message]
     [not found]           ` <20120120162220.GN8797-l88Q8xmqi7wqcZcGjlUOXw@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-20 17:59             ` Kay Sievers
2012-01-23 13:55               ` Theodore Tso
2012-01-23 22:07                 ` Alan Cox
2012-01-24  1:06                   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-01-20 18:20 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-20 18:29   ` Kay Sievers
     [not found]   ` <CAK1hOcNget=-MjeejiYGo5Vkigq9ey1o7sD2peO+tDGdk3TU9g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-20 18:47     ` Al Viro
2012-01-24 11:02 ` /etc/fstab.d yes or not (resolved) Karel Zak

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