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From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
To: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, neilb@suse.de, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM TOPIC] a few storage topics
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:15:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120124151504.GQ4387@shiny> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x49r4yq9suf.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 01:28:08PM -0500, Jeff Moyer wrote:
> Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 05:18:57PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> >> requst granularity. Sure, big requests will take longer to complete but
> >> maximum request size is relatively low (512k by default) so writing maximum
> >> sized request isn't that much slower than writing 4k. So it works OK in
> >> practice.
> >
> > Totally unrelated to the writeback, but the merged big 512k requests
> > actually adds up some measurable I/O scheduler latencies and they in
> > turn slightly diminish the fairness that cfq could provide with
> > smaller max request size. Probably even more measurable with SSDs (but
> > then SSDs are even faster).
> 
> Are you speaking from experience?  If so, what workloads were negatively
> affected by merging, and how did you measure that?

https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/12/13/326

This patch is another example, although for a slight different reason.
I really have no idea yet what the right answer is in a generic sense,
but you don't need a 512K request to see higher latencies from merging.

-chris

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-24 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2012-01-17 20:06 ` [LSF/MM TOPIC] a few storage topics Mike Snitzer
2012-01-17 21:36   ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2012-01-18 22:58     ` Darrick J. Wong
2012-01-18 23:22       ` Jan Kara
2012-01-18 23:42         ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-01-19  9:46           ` Jan Kara
2012-01-19 15:08             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-19 20:52               ` Jan Kara
2012-01-19 21:39                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-22 11:31                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-01-23 16:30                     ` Jan Kara
2012-01-22 12:21             ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-01-23 16:18               ` Jan Kara
2012-01-23 17:53                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-23 18:28                   ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-23 18:56                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-23 19:19                       ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 15:15                     ` Chris Mason [this message]
2012-01-24 16:56                       ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2012-01-24 17:01                         ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-24 17:06                         ` [Lsf-pc] [dm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-24 17:08                         ` Chris Mason
2012-01-24 17:08                         ` [Lsf-pc] " Andreas Dilger
2012-01-24 18:05                           ` [dm-devel] " Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 18:40                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-01-24 19:07                               ` Chris Mason
2012-01-24 19:14                                 ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 20:09                                   ` [Lsf-pc] [dm-devel] " Jan Kara
2012-01-24 20:13                                     ` [Lsf-pc] " Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 20:39                                       ` [Lsf-pc] [dm-devel] " Jan Kara
2012-01-24 20:59                                         ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 21:08                                           ` Jan Kara
2012-01-25  3:29                                         ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-25  6:15                                           ` [Lsf-pc] " Andreas Dilger
2012-01-25  6:35                                             ` [Lsf-pc] [dm-devel] " Wu Fengguang
2012-01-25 14:00                                               ` Jan Kara
2012-01-26 12:29                                                 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-27 17:03                                                   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-01-26 16:25                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2012-01-26 20:37                                                 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-26 22:34                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2012-01-27  3:27                                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-27  5:25                                                     ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-27  7:53                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-25 14:33                                             ` Steven Whitehouse
2012-01-25 14:45                                               ` Jan Kara
2012-01-25 16:22                                               ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 16:40                                                 ` Steven Whitehouse
2012-01-25 17:08                                                   ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 17:32                                                   ` James Bottomley
2012-01-25 18:28                                                     ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 18:37                                                       ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 18:37                                                       ` James Bottomley
2012-01-25 20:06                                                         ` Chris Mason
2012-01-25 22:46                                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-25 22:58                                                             ` Jan Kara
2012-01-26  8:59                                                             ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-01-26 16:40                                                             ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-26 17:00                                                               ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-26 17:16                                                                 ` Loke, Chetan
2012-02-03 12:37                                                               ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-26 22:38                                                           ` Dave Chinner
2012-01-26 16:17                                                         ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 18:44                                                       ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-02-03 12:55                                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-24 19:11                               ` [dm-devel] [Lsf-pc] " Jeff Moyer
2012-01-26 22:31                             ` Dave Chinner
2012-01-24 17:12                       ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 17:32                         ` Chris Mason
2012-01-24 18:14                           ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-25  0:23           ` NeilBrown
2012-01-25  6:11             ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-18 23:39       ` Dan Williams
2012-01-24 17:59   ` Martin K. Petersen
2012-01-24 19:48     ` Douglas Gilbert
2012-01-24 20:04       ` Martin K. Petersen

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