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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
To: NeilBrown <neilb-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Al Viro <viro-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fs/dcache: allow __d_obtain_alias() to return unhashed dentries
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:10:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120229231030.GC6506@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120220135537.3078e20b-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 01:55:37PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:30:11 -0500 "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 02:06:03PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> > > I was going ask how you managed to get an 'unhashed' dentry which was not
> > > DISCONNECTED, and belonged to a directory that could be the subject of
> > > d_splice_alias (that implies it has a name).
> > > 
> > > The bug sounds like a race between lookup and rmdir, which should be
> > > prevented by i_mutex.
> > > 
> > > I think that using __d_find_any_alias would just be papering over the
> > > problem, and would trigger a BUG_ON when it returned a non-DISCONNECTED alias.
> > 
> > Looking through the latest upstream code, I can't come up with another
> > obvious reproducer.
> > 
> > But I also can't see the code making any particular effort to ensure
> > that dentries are removed from inode's alias lists at the same time
> > they're unhashed.
> > 
> > E.g., trace up through the callers of d_drop/__d_drop and try to
> > convince yourselves that they all end up removing the dentry from the
> > alias list.
> > 
> > Can you see any reason why the following would actually create a
> > problem?
> 
> No, I don't think that would cause problems, so it is probably a good clean
> up and as Peng says it means we can remove the want_discon arg as well.
> 
> However I cannot help thinking that something else must be going wrong before
> we get to this point.
> When you rmdir a directory it must be empty and it will never be linked again.
> So how does 'lookup' find the inode and want to attach a dentry to it?
> 
> So I still think this is just papering over some other problem.
> 
> I think that looking at when aliases are removed is missing the point.
> 
> A directory can only have one name so it can only have one dentry.
> If that dentry gets unhashed, that is because the directory was deleted.

Wait, what other reasons could cause them to get unhashed?:

Just grepping for callers of d_drop....

On a distributed filesystem, we may unhash an in-use dentry if it no
longer seems to be valid.  Can something like this happen?

	- nfsd holds a filehandle for directory a/b
	- a/b is renamed to c/d by some other host using this
	  filesystem.
	- filesystem looks up a/b, finds it no longer there, unhashes
	  it.
	- a lookup for c/d later adds a new dentry.

And then we have two dentries?

And of course we unhash dentries when they're not in use, just to free
memory.  I think that case is OK.

--b.

> So
> now it must have zero names.  So there is no way that lookup can possibly
> find it, so there is no way that d_splice_alias can be asked to attach an
> alias to it.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-02-29 23:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-12 18:43 lifetime of DCACHE_DISCONECTED dentries J. Bruce Fields
2010-11-13 11:53 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-15 17:48   ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]     ` <20101115174837.GB10044-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-16  6:45       ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-29  3:56         ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-29 19:32           ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]             ` <20101129193248.GA9897-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-30  1:00               ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]                 ` <AANLkTikwzDJ_q65==uxDsAhp3h8bU7Rkt7U9gVgRAK0D-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-30 18:39                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-12-03 22:33                   ` [PATCH] nfsd4: allow __d_obtain_alias() to return unhashed dentries J. Bruce Fields
2010-12-13  5:19                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-14 22:01                       ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                         ` <20101214220102.GM24828-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-17 17:53                           ` [PATCH] fs/dcache: use standard list macro for d_find_alias J. Bruce Fields
2010-12-17 18:00                           ` [PATCH 2/2] fs/dcache: allow __d_obtain_alias() to return unhashed dentries J. Bruce Fields
2010-12-18  2:01                             ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-18 16:16                               ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                 ` <20101218161609.GA22150-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-19 14:53                                   ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]                                     ` <AANLkTingRv_gtRSctGzMfYrKg02M_sKj97HSQPRm_mA_-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-27 23:46                                       ` [PATCH] " J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                         ` <20101227234641.GA22248-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-18 20:45                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                             ` <20110118204509.GA10903-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-18 22:02                                               ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]                                                 ` <AANLkTikL2CDSWQJ1QH_Y4G-j70Vd=VesNMMnYTmMGHC9-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-18 22:08                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                     ` <20110118220817.GF10903-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-08 18:13                                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                         ` <20110308181320.GA15566-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-10 10:58                                                           ` Al Viro
     [not found]                                                             ` <20110310105821.GE22723-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-11  4:07                                                               ` NeilBrown
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20110311150749.2fa2be66-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-14 17:03                                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20120214170300.GA4309-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-15 16:56                                                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                                         ` <20120215165633.GE12490-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16  3:06                                                                           ` NeilBrown
     [not found]                                                                             ` <20120216140603.08cb4900-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 11:51                                                                               ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <20120216115133.GA20279-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 16:08                                                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-02-16 22:30                                                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                                               ` <20120216223011.GA23997-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-17 16:34                                                                                 ` Peng Tao
2012-03-13 20:55                                                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-13 20:58                                                                                     ` [PATCH 1/2] vfs: stop d_splice_alias creating directory aliases J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-13 20:58                                                                                     ` [PATCH 2/2] vfs: remove unused __d_splice_alias argument J. Bruce Fields
2012-02-20  2:55                                                                                 ` [PATCH] fs/dcache: allow __d_obtain_alias() to return unhashed dentries NeilBrown
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <20120220135537.3078e20b-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-29 23:10                                                                                     ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2012-06-28 13:59                                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20120628135927.GA6406-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-29 20:10                                                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                                         ` <20120629201034.GA17103-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-29 20:29                                                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-07-01 23:15                                                                             ` NeilBrown

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