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From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
To: Jacek Luczak <difrost.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: getdents - ext4 vs btrfs performance
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 19:37:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120306003716.GD4191@shiny> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADDYkjQ+N1O0x=_JUdCAdNgrp6mQM44VBzZf6V8e2B5OK6fp1A@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 12:32:45PM +0100, Jacek Luczak wrote:
> 2012/3/4 Jacek Luczak <difrost.kernel@gmail.com>:
> > 2012/3/3 Jacek Luczak <difrost.kernel@gmail.com>:
> >> 2012/3/2 Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>:
> >>> On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 03:16:12PM +0100, Jacek Luczak wrote:
> >>>> 2012/3/2 Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>:
> >>>> > On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 11:05:56AM +0100, Jacek Luczak wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I've took both on tests. The subject is acp and spd_readdir used with
> >>>> >> tar, all on ext4:
> >>>> >> 1) acp: http://91.234.146.107/~difrost/seekwatcher/acp_ext4.png
> >>>> >> 2) spd_readdir: http://91.234.146.107/~difrost/seekwatcher/tar_ext4_readir.png
> >>>> >> 3) both: http://91.234.146.107/~difrost/seekwatcher/acp_vs_spd_ext4.png
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> The acp looks much better than spd_readdir but directory copy with
> >>>> >> spd_readdir decreased to 52m 39sec (30 min less).
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Do you have stats on how big these files are, and how fragmented they
> >>>> > are?  For acp and spd to give us this, I think something has gone wrong
> >>>> > at writeback time (creating individual fragmented files).
> >>>>
> >>>> How big? Which files?
> >>>
> >>> All the files you're reading ;)
> >>>
> >>> filefrag will tell you how many extents each file has, any file with
> >>> more than one extent is interesting.  (The ext4 crowd may have better
> >>> suggestions on measuring fragmentation).
> >>>
> >>> Since you mention this is a compile farm, I'm guessing there are a bunch
> >>> of .o files created by parallel builds.  There are a lot of chances for
> >>> delalloc and the kernel writeback code to do the wrong thing here.
> >>>
> >>
> > [Most of files are B and K size]
> >>
> >> All files scanned: 1978149
> >> Files fragmented: 313 (0.015%) where 11 have 3+ extents
> >> Total size of fragmented files: 7GB (~13% of dir size)

Ok, so I don't have a lot of great new ideas.  My guess is that inode
order and disk order for the blocks aren't matching up.  You can confirm
this with:

acp -b some_dir

You can also try telling acp to make a bigger read ahead window:

acp -s 4096 -r 128 some_dir

You can tell acp to scan all the files in the directory tree first
(warning, this might use a good chunk of ram)

acp -w some_dir

and you can combine all of these together  None of the above
will actually help in your workload, but it'll help narrow down what is
actually seeky on disk.

-chris

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-06  0:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-29 13:52 getdents - ext4 vs btrfs performance Jacek Luczak
2012-02-29 13:55 ` Jacek Luczak
2012-02-29 14:07   ` Jacek Luczak
2012-02-29 14:21     ` Jacek Luczak
2012-02-29 14:42     ` Chris Mason
2012-02-29 14:55       ` Jacek Luczak
2012-03-01 13:35         ` Jacek Luczak
2012-03-01 13:50           ` Hillf Danton
2012-03-01 14:03             ` Jacek Luczak
2012-03-01 14:18               ` Chris Mason
2012-03-01 14:43                 ` Jacek Luczak
2012-03-01 14:51                   ` Chris Mason
2012-03-01 14:57                     ` Jacek Luczak
2012-03-01 18:42                   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-02  9:51                     ` Jacek Luczak
2012-03-01  4:44 ` Theodore Tso
2012-03-01 14:38   ` Chris Mason
2012-03-02 10:05     ` Jacek Luczak
2012-03-02 14:00       ` Chris Mason
2012-03-02 14:16         ` Jacek Luczak
2012-03-02 14:26           ` Chris Mason
2012-03-02 19:32             ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-02 19:50               ` Chris Mason
2012-03-05 13:10               ` Jan Kara
2012-03-03 22:41             ` Jacek Luczak
2012-03-04 10:25               ` Jacek Luczak
2012-03-05 11:32                 ` Jacek Luczak
2012-03-06  0:37                   ` Chris Mason [this message]
2012-03-08 17:02   ` Phillip Susi
2012-03-09 11:29 ` Lukas Czerner
2012-03-09 14:34   ` Chris Mason
2012-03-10  0:09   ` Andreas Dilger
2012-03-10  4:48     ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-11 10:30       ` Andreas Dilger
2012-03-11 16:13         ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-15 10:42           ` Jacek Luczak
2012-03-18 20:56             ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-13 19:05       ` Phillip Susi
2012-03-13 19:53         ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-13 20:22           ` Phillip Susi
2012-03-13 21:33             ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-14  2:48               ` Yongqiang Yang
2012-03-14  2:51                 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-14 14:17                   ` Zach Brown
2012-03-14 16:48                     ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-14 17:37                       ` Zach Brown
2012-03-14  8:12               ` Lukas Czerner
2012-03-14  9:29                 ` Yongqiang Yang
2012-03-14  9:38                   ` Lukas Czerner
2012-03-14 12:50                 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-14 14:34                   ` Lukas Czerner
2012-03-14 17:02                     ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-14 19:17                   ` Chris Mason
2012-03-14 14:28               ` Phillip Susi
2012-03-14 16:54                 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-10  3:52 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-15  7:59   ` Jacek Luczak
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-02-29 13:31 Jacek Luczak
2012-02-29 13:51 ` Chris Mason
2012-02-29 14:00   ` Lukas Czerner
2012-02-29 14:05   ` Chris Mason

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