From: Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Zach Brown <zab@zabbo.net>
Cc: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC] Don't do page stablization if !CONFIG_BLKDEV_INTEGRITY
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 10:54:19 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120308155419.GB6777@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F581BF6.8000305@zabbo.net>
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 09:39:50PM -0500, Zach Brown wrote:
>
> >Can you devise a non-secret testcase that demonstrates this?
>
> Hmm. I bet you could get fio to do it. Giant file, random mmap()
> writes, spin until the CPU overwhelms writeback?
Kick off a bunch of fio processes, each in separate I/O cgroups set up
so that each of the processes get a "fair" amount of the I/O
bandwidth. (This is quite common in cloud deployments where you are
packing a huge number of tasks onto a single box; whether the tasks
are inside virtual machines or containers don't really matter for the
purpose of this exercise. We basically need to simulate a system
where the disks are busy.)
Then in one of those cgroups, create a process which is constantly
appending to a file using buffered I/O; this could be a log file, or
an application-level journal file; and measure the latency of that
write system call. Every so often, writeback will push the dirty
pages corresponding to the log/journal file to disk. When that
happens, and page stablization is enabled, the latency of that write
system call will spike.
And any time you have a distributed system where you are depending on
a large number of RPC/SOAP/Service Oriented Architecture Enterpise
Service Bus calls (I don't really care which buzzword you use, but IBM
and Oracle really like the last one :-), long-tail latencies are what
kill your responsiveness and predictability. Especially when a thread
goes away for a second or more...
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-08 15:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-07 23:40 [PATCH, RFC] Don't do page stablization if !CONFIG_BLKDEV_INTEGRITY Theodore Ts'o
2012-03-07 23:54 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-03-08 0:05 ` Darrick J. Wong
2012-03-08 2:18 ` Darrick J. Wong
2012-03-08 3:00 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-08 3:21 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-08 2:39 ` Zach Brown
2012-03-08 15:54 ` Ted Ts'o [this message]
2012-03-08 18:09 ` Chris Mason
2012-03-08 20:20 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-08 20:37 ` Chris Mason
2012-03-08 20:42 ` Jeff Moyer
2012-03-08 20:55 ` Chris Mason
2012-03-08 21:12 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-08 21:20 ` Chris Mason
2012-03-09 8:11 ` Dave Chinner
2012-03-08 20:50 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-08 23:32 ` Dave Chinner
2012-03-08 21:24 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-08 21:38 ` Chris Mason
2012-03-08 21:41 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-09 1:02 ` Chris Mason
2012-03-09 1:08 ` Martin K. Petersen
2012-03-09 16:20 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-08 21:52 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-08 0:23 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-08 3:45 ` Martin K. Petersen
2012-03-08 4:37 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-08 6:27 ` Sage Weil
2012-03-08 15:43 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-03-08 16:36 ` Martin K. Petersen
2012-03-08 16:43 ` Sage Weil
2012-03-15 2:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-03-15 4:46 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-15 5:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
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