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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: "Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@citi.umich.edu>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] NFSv4: Return the delegation if the server returns NFS4ERR_OPENMODE
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 15:57:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120308205737.GC9273@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1331239814.11759.1.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>

On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 08:50:14PM +0000, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 15:42 -0500, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 03:23:34PM -0500, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Myklebust, Trond
> > > <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 12:52 -0500, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
> > > >> wouldn't it be better for you to proactively return a read delegation
> > > >> then unnecessarily erroring?
> > > >
> > > > If nobody else holds a delegation, then the NFS client is actually
> > > > allowed to keep its read delegation while writing to the file. It does
> > > > admittedly need to request an OPEN stateid for write in that case...
> > > > (See section 10.4 of RFC3530bis draft 16)
> > > 
> > > If we both agree that there has to be a request for an open stateid for
> > > a write, then instead of returning the read delegation if the client receives
> > > err_openmode (when it send the request with read delegation stateid
> > > as you said per 3560bis), can't the client resend the setattr with the open
> > > stateid? The ordering of the stateid usage is a "should" and not a "must".
> > > 
> > > In rfc5661, it really doesn't make sense to ever send a setattr with
> > > a read delegation stateid. According to 9.1.2, the server "MUST" return
> > > err_open_mode" error in that case.
> > > 
> > > I gather you are in this case dealing with 4.0 delegations. But I wonder
> > > if you'll do something else for 4.1 delegation then?
> > 
> > 3530bis has the same language ("...must verify that the access mode
> > allows writing and return an NFS4ERR_OPENMODE error if it does not").
> 
> OK, so we shouldn't send the delegation stateid either for v4 or v4.1.
> However should we pre-emptively return the delegation? I've been
> assuming not.

The server's only legal option is to recall it, so it seems odd not to
pre-emptively return--but as you say there's nothing to prevent the
server from then handing one right back, possibly before you get a
chance to send the setattr.

(And the linux server might well do that--maybe it should have some
heuristic not to hand out a delegation that was just returned--not so
much for this case as just because a return is a sign that the
delegation isn't useful to that client.)

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-08 20:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-06 10:10 NFSv4: truncate returns I/O error Miklos Szeredi
2012-03-06 14:16 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-03-07 22:40 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Trond Myklebust
2012-03-07 22:40   ` [PATCH 1/2] NFS: Properly handle the case where the delegation is revoked Trond Myklebust
2012-03-07 22:40     ` [PATCH 2/2] NFSv4: Return the delegation if the server returns NFS4ERR_OPENMODE Trond Myklebust
2012-03-08 17:52       ` Olga Kornievskaia
     [not found]         ` <CAN-5tyG-w+ie3sxTwNA6e9x=CojxyDaJScJuCbS+9VE=yTmJNA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-08 18:15           ` Myklebust, Trond
     [not found]             ` <1331230525.2472.39.camel-SyLVLa/KEI9HwK5hSS5vWB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-08 20:23               ` Olga Kornievskaia
2012-03-08 20:42                 ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                   ` <20120308204205.GB9273-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-08 20:50                     ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-03-08 20:57                       ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2012-03-08 21:02                         ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-03-08 21:09                           ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                         ` <20120308205737.GC9273-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-08 21:12                           ` Boaz Harrosh
     [not found]                       ` <1331239814.11759.1.camel-SyLVLa/KEI9HwK5hSS5vWB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-08 21:27                         ` Olga Kornievskaia

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