From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
"Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
"linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ext4: turn on i_version updates by default
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 16:43:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120515144334.GA26579@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120515123550.GA7053@fieldses.org>
On Tue 15-05-12 08:35:50, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:30:21PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Mon 14-05-12 19:54:32, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 05:33:04PM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > > > I said as much in another reply - that once i_version is used on
> > > > a filesystem, it should be made "sticky" (i.e. permanently enabled
> > > > for that filesystem). However, until that time it shouldn't be
> > > > enabled just because it might one day be used.
> > > >
> > > > Even better than just blindly bumping the i_version on every change,
> > > > it would be better to have users of i_version (i.e. knfsd) flag the
> > > > inode with "needs i_version update" then read the version. When the
> > > > filesystem/VFS bumps i_version the next time it can clear this flag
> > > > and not update i_version again until after the next time i_version
> > > > is actually used.
> > >
> > > I really don't want to do anything more complicated than necessary.
> > >
> > > What would be the worst-case test for the extra inode dirtying, so we
> > > can see what the numbers actually are?
> > Something like:
> >
> > int fd, i;
> > struct timeval tv[2];
> >
> > fd = open("file", O_CREAT | O_RDWR, 0644);
> > if (fd < 0)
> > return 1;
> > for (i = 0; i < 1000000; i++) {
> > gettimeofday(tv);
> > tv[1] = tv[0];
> > if (futimes(fd, tv) < 0)
> > return 1;
> > }
> > return 0;
> >
> > And see how long does it take with and without i_version?
>
> The complaint I hear from Andreas is that we'll cause file_update_time()
> to call mark_inode_dirty() more often.
>
> I don't believe futimes() calls file_update_time().
Yeah, right. I didn't check and I was wrong...
> So maybe replace that futimes() by a one-byte write?
Yes, "pwrite(fd, "data", 1, 0);" should be then a proper test instead of
futimes().
Honza
--
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-15 14:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-14 14:06 [PATCH] ext4: turn on i_version updates by default J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20120514140618.GA29902-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 15:02 ` Andreas Dilger
[not found] ` <9124E59E-2479-4C32-A528-3237B48DEC01-m1MBpc4rdrD3fQ9qLvQP4Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 15:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20120514152334.GB29902-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 17:27 ` Andreas Dilger
[not found] ` <14B38D68-FAE4-444A-BCD9-7EBF7E1BBFE1-m1MBpc4rdrD3fQ9qLvQP4Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 17:58 ` Ted Ts'o
[not found] ` <20120514175822.GC1439-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 18:33 ` Josef Bacik
[not found] ` <20120514183316.GA1894-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 18:48 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20120514144802.679551fa-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 18:51 ` Josef Bacik
2012-05-14 18:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-05-14 19:05 ` Josef Bacik
[not found] ` <20120514190500.GC1894-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 21:27 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-15 13:28 ` Josef Bacik
2012-05-15 17:59 ` Marco Stornelli
2012-05-15 19:18 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-05-15 17:33 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-05-15 18:50 ` djwong
2012-05-14 23:08 ` Myklebust, Trond
[not found] ` <1337036918.2522.32.camel-SyLVLa/KEI9HwK5hSS5vWB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 23:33 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-14 23:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20120514235432.GA3199-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-15 10:30 ` Jan Kara
2012-05-15 12:35 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-05-15 14:43 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2012-05-15 0:13 ` Myklebust, Trond
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