From: djwong <djwong@us.ibm.com>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
"linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ext4: turn on i_version updates by default
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 11:50:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120515185037.GG6938@tux1.beaverton.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120515173340.GA10064@fieldses.org>
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 01:33:40PM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:27:42AM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > On 2012-05-14, at 9:23 AM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 09:02:12AM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > >> On 2012-05-14, at 8:06, "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
> > >>> knfsd needs i_version updates on, as will userspace nfs servers and
> > >>> probably others.
> > >>>
> > >>> The only effects are that inode->i_version is bumped (under the i_lock)
> > >>> in more places, and that ->dirty_inode(I_DIRTY_DATASYNC) may be called
> > >>> more frequently than once per jiffy on write (see file_update_time).
> > >>> However the latter appears to be mostly a no-op in that case.
> > >>
> > >> I thought this can have noticeable performance impact, since ext4_mark_inode_dirty() is quite heavyweight?
> > >
> > > There's no reason it should be, should it, if we already just dirtied
> > > the inode a moment ago?
> >
> > Ideally not, but the way ext[34]_mark_inode_dirty() is implemented
> > is that it copies the whole in-core inode to the on-disk inode every
> > time it is marked dirty. That ensures that the on-disk inode is
> > up-to-date when the journal flushes the blocks to disk, but is not
> > an ideal implementation. It has been this way since the first ext3
> > implementation was done.
> >
> > As a result, dirtying the inode very frequently for ext[34] is
> > currently expensive and should be avoided.
> >
> > I _think_ that the ext4 metadata checksum patches have changed this
> > to only flag the inode dirty and run a pre-commit callback to copy
> > the in-core inode to the on-disk inode. I'm not sure what the
> > current status of that patch is, nor how easily it could be split
> > from that patch series and land separately.
>
> I did some searching, found a couple of versions of the metadata
> checksum patches, but no patch that looked like what you're describing.
> Any idea where that is?
That _was_ going to be the basis of phase 2 of my metadata checksum patchset,
but since I've been moved to other projects, I don't see that on my plate in
the near future. :/
(tldr: It doesn't exist.)
--D
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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-14 14:06 [PATCH] ext4: turn on i_version updates by default J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20120514140618.GA29902-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 15:02 ` Andreas Dilger
[not found] ` <9124E59E-2479-4C32-A528-3237B48DEC01-m1MBpc4rdrD3fQ9qLvQP4Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 15:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20120514152334.GB29902-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 17:27 ` Andreas Dilger
[not found] ` <14B38D68-FAE4-444A-BCD9-7EBF7E1BBFE1-m1MBpc4rdrD3fQ9qLvQP4Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 17:58 ` Ted Ts'o
[not found] ` <20120514175822.GC1439-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 18:33 ` Josef Bacik
[not found] ` <20120514183316.GA1894-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 18:48 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20120514144802.679551fa-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 18:51 ` Josef Bacik
2012-05-14 18:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-05-14 19:05 ` Josef Bacik
[not found] ` <20120514190500.GC1894-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 21:27 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-15 13:28 ` Josef Bacik
2012-05-15 17:59 ` Marco Stornelli
2012-05-15 19:18 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-05-15 17:33 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-05-15 18:50 ` djwong [this message]
2012-05-14 23:08 ` Myklebust, Trond
[not found] ` <1337036918.2522.32.camel-SyLVLa/KEI9HwK5hSS5vWB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 23:33 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-14 23:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20120514235432.GA3199-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-15 10:30 ` Jan Kara
2012-05-15 12:35 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-05-15 14:43 ` Jan Kara
2012-05-15 0:13 ` Myklebust, Trond
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