From: Alasdair G Kergon <agk-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Kent Overstreet <koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 13/16] Make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily large bios
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 23:58:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120525225852.GG5761@agk-dp.fab.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1337977539-16977-14-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 01:25:36PM -0700, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> But this approach becomes unwieldy and eventually breaks down with
> stacked devices and devices with dynamic limits, and it adds a lot of
> complexity. If the block layer could split bios as needed, we could
Complexity - yes - but if people didn't observe a genuine benefit, why
did they go to the trouble of writing this and getting it included?
> eliminate a lot of complexity elsewhere - particularly in stacked
> drivers.
> Code that creates bios can then create whatever size bios are
> convenient, and more importantly stacked drivers don't have to deal with
> both their own bio size limitations and the limitations of the
> (potentially multiple) devices underneath them.
A theoretical argument. Perhaps it's the right assessment of this
issue. Perhaps it's not. Or perhaps it depends on the use-case.
I made a theoretical argument from a different point of view in my last email.
I think a body of *empirical* evidence should provide the justification
for this particular change, and until such evidence is forthcoming we
should keep the status quo.
Alasdair
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-25 22:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-25 20:25 [PATCH v3 00/16] Block cleanups Kent Overstreet
2012-05-25 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 01/16] block: Generalized bio pool freeing Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <1337977539-16977-2-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-28 1:15 ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-28 10:04 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-05-25 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 02/16] dm: Use bioset's front_pad for dm_rq_clone_bio_info Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <1337977539-16977-3-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-28 0:57 ` [dm-devel] " Jun'ichi Nomura
[not found] ` <4FC2CD93.1080009-JhyGz2TFV9J8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-28 11:41 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2012-05-28 1:21 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1337977539-16977-1-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-25 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 03/16] block: Add bio_reset() Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <1337977539-16977-4-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-28 1:23 ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-28 10:02 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-05-25 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 04/16] pktcdvd: Switch to bio_kmalloc() Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <1337977539-16977-5-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-28 1:30 ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-25 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 05/16] block: Kill bi_destructor Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <1337977539-16977-6-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-28 1:36 ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-29 2:10 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20120529021042.GA6472-RcKxWJ4Cfj3IzGYXcIpNmNLIRw13R84JkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-29 2:20 ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-25 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 06/16] block: Add an explicit bio flag for bios that own their bvec Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <1337977539-16977-7-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-28 1:52 ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-25 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 07/16] block: Rename bio_split() -> bio_pair_split() Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <1337977539-16977-8-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-28 10:15 ` Boaz Harrosh
[not found] ` <4FC3504B.7000903-C4P08NqkoRlBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-29 2:15 ` Kent Overstreet
2012-05-25 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 08/16] block: Rework bio splitting Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <1337977539-16977-9-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-28 16:12 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-05-25 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 09/16] block: Add bio_clone_kmalloc() Kent Overstreet
2012-05-25 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 10/16] block: Add bio_clone_bioset() Kent Overstreet
2012-05-25 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 11/16] block: Only clone bio vecs that are in use Kent Overstreet
2012-05-25 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 12/16] Closures Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <1337977539-16977-13-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-25 20:57 ` Joe Perches
2012-05-25 21:35 ` Kent Overstreet
2012-05-25 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 13/16] Make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily large bios Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <1337977539-16977-14-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-25 22:58 ` Alasdair G Kergon [this message]
[not found] ` <20120525225852.GG5761-FDJ95KluN3Z0klwcnFlA1dvLeJWuRmrY@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-25 23:12 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2012-05-26 0:18 ` Kent Overstreet
2012-05-25 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 14/16] Gut bio_add_page() Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <1337977539-16977-15-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-25 20:46 ` Mike Snitzer
2012-05-25 21:09 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20120525210944.GB14196-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-25 22:39 ` Alasdair G Kergon
[not found] ` <20120525223937.GF5761-FDJ95KluN3Z0klwcnFlA1dvLeJWuRmrY@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-28 16:07 ` Mikulas Patocka
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1205281129180.2227-e+HWlsje6Db1wF9wiOj0lkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-28 20:28 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20120528202839.GA18537-RcKxWJ4Cfj1J2suj2OqeGauc2jM2gXBXkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-28 21:27 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-05-28 21:38 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20120528213839.GB18537-RcKxWJ4Cfj1J2suj2OqeGauc2jM2gXBXkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-28 23:02 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20120528230208.GA20954-RcKxWJ4Cfj1J2suj2OqeGauc2jM2gXBXkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-29 2:08 ` Dave Chinner
2012-05-29 2:15 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20120529021558.GG20954-RcKxWJ4Cfj1J2suj2OqeGauc2jM2gXBXkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-29 3:36 ` Kent Overstreet
2012-05-29 2:07 ` Dave Chinner
2012-05-29 1:54 ` Dave Chinner
2012-05-29 3:34 ` Kent Overstreet
2012-06-05 0:33 ` Dave Chinner
2012-05-25 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 15/16] md: Kill merge_bvec_fn()s Kent Overstreet
2012-05-25 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 16/16] dm: Kill merge_bvec_fn() Kent Overstreet
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