From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd.bergmann@linaro.org>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>
Cc: "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Alex Lemberg <Alex.Lemberg@sandisk.com>,
HYOJIN JEONG <syr.jeong@samsung.com>,
Saugata Das <saugata.das@linaro.org>,
Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
Saugata Das <saugata.das@stericsson.com>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, patches@linaro.org, venkat@linaro.org,
"Luca Porzio (lporzio)" <lporzio@micron.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] ext4: Context support
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:19:23 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201206150919.23484.arnd.bergmann@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1206141505300.23555@xanadu.home>
On Thursday 14 June 2012, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2012, Ted Ts'o wrote:
>
> > The reason why I talk about making it work automatically at mke2fs
> > time is that the vast majority of created file systems (where a
> > specially created fs by a handset vendor counts as "one", even if it
> > then gets stamped on millions of devices), the end user is someone
> > naive/oblivious, so the right thing has to happen by default in the
> > common case of running mke2fs on the storage device where the file
> > system gets used.
>
> Absolutely. However it is fair to say that less than 0.01% of total end
> users will even think of running mke2fs on their device. So another
> strategy that can be executed at run time when the fs is live would be
> required too.
The trouble is that detecting the erase block size requires us to
write specific patterns to the device, which is generally a bad
idea after the file system has been created.
I think the best we can do is
* default to "unspecified" as before
* if "unspecified", make the file system ask the block device. in
case of eMMC, that will usually be reliable
* Add an option to mkfs and tunefs to hardcode a specific size for
users that know the size and can't rely on the blockdev reporting
it correctly to the file system.
* Add an option to mkfs to autodetect the size for the drive it's
run on.
Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-15 9:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-11 10:46 [PATCH 1/3] block: Context support Saugata Das
2012-06-11 10:46 ` [PATCH 2/3] ext4: " Saugata Das
2012-06-11 11:41 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-06-11 12:27 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-12 12:21 ` Saugata Das
2012-06-12 12:32 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-12 13:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-12 14:26 ` Saugata Das
2012-06-12 14:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-12 18:19 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-12 20:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-12 20:41 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-13 19:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-13 20:00 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-13 20:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-14 2:07 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-14 16:14 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-14 16:24 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-06-14 17:05 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-14 19:08 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-15 9:19 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2012-06-15 21:30 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-16 6:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-14 21:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-15 5:18 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-06-15 9:25 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-15 9:40 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-06-15 10:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-15 22:04 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-15 22:25 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-06-16 7:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-16 7:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-16 7:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-16 13:49 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-16 17:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-18 17:42 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-19 15:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-20 15:09 ` Luca Porzio (lporzio)
2012-06-20 15:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-22 13:29 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-06-22 14:07 ` Luca Porzio (lporzio)
2012-06-11 10:46 ` [PATCH 3/3] mmc: " Saugata Das
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