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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Linux FS Maling List <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Maling List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ext4 Mailing List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv6 3/5] ext4: remove unnecessary superblock dirtying
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:11:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120711101150.GH1316@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120711100726.GE1316@quack.suse.cz>

On Wed 11-07-12 12:07:26, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Wed 11-07-12 12:58:16, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
...
> > And this is the behavior this patch modifies: we stop using 's_dirt' and just
> > mark the superblock buffer as dirty right away. Indeed:
> > 
> > 1. It does not add any value to delay the I/O submission for cases 1-3 above.
> >    They are rare.
> > 2. Case number 4 above depends on whether we have file-system checksumming
> >    enabled or disables.
> >    a) If it is disabled (most common scenario), then it is all-right to just
> >       mark the superblock buffer as dirty right away and it should affect
> >       performance.
> >    b) If it is enabled, then we'll end up doing a bit more work on deletion
> >       because we'll re-calculate superblock checksum every time.
> > 
> > So case 2.b is a bit controversial, but I think it is acceptable. After all, by
> > enabling checksumming we already sign up for paying the price of calculating
> > it. The way to improve checksumming performance globally would be to calculate
> > it just before sending buffers to the I/O queue. We'd need some kind of
> > call-back which could be registered by file-systems.
  Actually, the most common case of adding orphan inode used
ext4_handle_dirty_super_now() so for that case there is no difference. And
other cases are so rare it really does not matter... So there shouldn't be
any measurable difference.

									Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-11 10:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-11  9:58 [PATCHv6 0/5] ext4: stop using write_supers and s_dirt Artem Bityutskiy
2012-07-11  9:58 ` [PATCHv6 1/5] ext4: Remove useless marking of superblock dirty Artem Bityutskiy
2012-07-11  9:58 ` [PATCHv6 2/5] ext4: Convert last user of ext4_mark_super_dirty() to ext4_handle_dirty_super() Artem Bityutskiy
2012-07-11  9:58 ` [PATCHv6 3/5] ext4: remove unnecessary superblock dirtying Artem Bityutskiy
2012-07-11 10:07   ` Jan Kara
2012-07-11 10:11     ` Jan Kara [this message]
2012-07-11 10:24       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-07-11 13:36       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-07-11  9:58 ` [PATCHv6 4/5] ext4: weed out ext4_write_super Artem Bityutskiy
2012-07-11 10:08   ` Jan Kara
2012-07-11  9:58 ` [PATCHv6 5/5] ext4: remove unnecessary argument Artem Bityutskiy
2012-07-11 10:09   ` Jan Kara

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