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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: Zhi Yong Wu <zwu.kernel@gmail.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linuxram@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	cmm@us.ibm.com, Ben Chociej <bchociej@gmail.com>,
	James Northrup <northrup.james@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: VFS hot tracking: How to calculate data temperature?
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 19:35:42 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121105083542.GK29378@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121102201048.GA20993@blackbox.djwong.org>

On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 01:10:48PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 04:41:09PM +0800, Zheng Liu wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 02:38:29PM +0800, Zhi Yong Wu wrote:
> > > Here also has another question.
> > > 
> > > How to save the file temperature among the umount to be able to
> > > preserve the file tempreture after reboot?
> > > 
> > > This above is the requirement from DB product.
> > > I thought that we can save file temperature in its inode struct, that
> > > is, add one new field in struct inode, then this info will be written
> > > to disk with inode.
> > > 
> > > Any comments or ideas are appreciated, thanks.
> > 
> > Hi Zhiyong,
> > 
> > I think that we might define a callback function.  If a filesystem wants
> > to save these data, it can implement a function to save them.  The
> > filesystem can decide whether adding it or not by themselves.
> > 
> > BTW, actually I don't really care about how to save these data because I
> > only want to observe which file is accessed in real time, which is very
> > useful for me to track a problem in our product system.
> 
> <shrug> I _think_ the vfs quota code simply asks the filesystem for a special
> inode where it save the quota data in whatever (FS-agnostic) format it wants.
> Have you considered something like that?

Doesn't make a lot of sense because the data is per-inode. Storing
it per-inode is the only way it can be efficiently stored and
indexed as it is accessed at the same time the inode is accessed.

Quota information, OTOH, is per user/group/project - they are shared
structures and have a completely different lookup and index
mechanism to per-inode data structures. Henc eI don't think that
the quota model would be a good fit for such data.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-05  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-02  4:04 VFS hot tracking: How to calculate data temperature? Zhi Yong Wu
2012-11-02  4:43 ` Ram Pai
2012-11-02  6:39   ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-11-02  6:38 ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-11-02  8:41   ` Zheng Liu
2012-11-02 20:10     ` Darrick J. Wong
2012-11-05  2:34       ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-11-05  8:35       ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2012-11-05  2:29     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-11-06  8:39       ` Zheng Liu
2012-11-06  9:00         ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-11-07  6:45           ` Zheng Liu
2012-11-06  9:36     ` Ram Pai
2012-11-06 23:10       ` Darrick J. Wong
2012-11-07  6:36         ` Zheng Liu
2012-11-07 19:25           ` Darrick J. Wong
2012-11-08  2:48             ` Zheng Liu
2012-11-02 21:27   ` Mingming.cao
2012-11-05  2:35     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-11-05  8:28       ` Dave Chinner
2012-11-05  8:44         ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-11-05 10:33           ` Steven Whitehouse
2012-11-05 11:46             ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-11-05 11:57               ` Steven Whitehouse
2012-11-05 12:18                 ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-11-05 12:25                   ` Steven Whitehouse
2012-11-09  1:12 ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-11-09  3:20   ` Zheng Liu
     [not found]   ` <CAPkEcwg0ZHjV3JVxoKSzFqKLHavhGdTufLZBdBGQ6xXDMrSU-w@mail.gmail.com>
2012-11-11 23:32     ` Zhi Yong Wu

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