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From: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH review 12/16] userns: For /proc/self/{uid, gid}_map derive the lower userns from the struct file
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:19:12 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121119211912.GA12388@sergelap> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877gphz4d9.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org):
> Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org> writes:
> 
> > Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org):
> >> Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org> writes:
> >> 
> >> > Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org):
> >> >> From: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> 
> >> >> To keep things sane in the context of file descriptor passing derive the
> >> >> user namespace that uids are mapped into from the opener of the file
> >> >> instead of from current.
> >> >> 
> >> >> When writing to the maps file the lower user namespace must always
> >> >> be the parent user namespace, or setting the mapping simply does
> >> >> not make sense.  Enforce that the opener of the file was in
> >> >> the parent user namespace or the user namespace whose mapping
> >> >> is being set.
> >> >
> >> > Is there a reasonable use case for writing from the ns whose mapping
> >> > is being set?  Are you expecting cases where the child opens the file
> >> > and passes it back to the parent to set the mappings?
> >> 
> >> Passing the open mappings file no.  Although by using seq_user_ns I do
> >> make certain the semantics are correct if the file descriptor is passed,
> >> but I did that on general principles.
> >> 
> >> I expect a process in the user namespace to be able to meaningfully set
> >> the mapping to some the current uid and the current gid.
> >
> > Sorry, I think a word is missing there.  To be precise (bc I haven't
> > thought about this much before as it's not my target goal :) you're
> > saying if I'm uid 1000 gid 1000, I can create a new user namespace
> > and, from inside that new userns (where I'm first uid/gid -1) I can
> > map any uid+gid in the container to 1000 in the parent ns?  Or is there
> > something more?
> 
> Only that for now.  I had once imagined magic would happen in the
> background to verify the parent.
> 
> > It still seems to me no less flexible to require being in the parent
> > ns, so
> >
> >> >> +	if ((seq_ns != ns) && (seq_ns != ns->parent))
> >> >> +		return -EPERM;
> >
> > would become
> >
> >> >> +	if (seq_ns != ns->parent)
> >> >> +		return -EPERM;
> >
> 
> In practice when playing around it is the difference between.
> unshare -U /bin/bash
> echo 0 1000 1 > /proc/self/uid_map
> 
> And the need to pre-plan something.  You can set the uid_map from the
> parent in a shell script but it is a real pain.  So for just messing
> around allowing seq_ns == ns is a real advantage.

Heh, ok - I almost always want >1 uid mapped, but I can see the
advantage.

Thanks.

I don't recall whether I put this in originally, but

Acked-by: Serge E. Hallyn <serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

> > I also wonder if -EINVAL would be a more appropriate choice here.
> > We're trying to keep things sane, rather than saying "not allowed"
> > for its own sake.
> 
> A different error code might be better.

I suppose strictly speaking (looking at errno-base.h) it would be EBADF?

-serge

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-19 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-19 15:08 [PATCH review 0/16] user namespace and namespace infrastructure completion Eric W. Biederman
     [not found] ` <87lidx8wbo.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-19 15:12   ` [PATCH review 01/16] userns: Ignore suid and sgid on binaries if the uid or gid can not be mapped Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-19 15:12     ` [PATCH review 08/16] userns: Kill task_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]       ` <1353337961-12962-8-git-send-email-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-19 22:34         ` Kees Cook
2012-11-19 15:12     ` [PATCH review 10/16] userns: Implement unshare of the user namespace Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <1353337961-12962-1-git-send-email-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-19 15:12       ` [PATCH review 02/16] userns: Allow unprivileged users to create user namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-19 15:12       ` [PATCH review 03/16] userns: Allow chown and setgid preservation Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <1353337961-12962-3-git-send-email-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-19 17:49           ` Serge Hallyn
2012-11-19 15:12       ` [PATCH review 04/16] userns: Allow setting a userns mapping to your current uid Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-19 15:12       ` [PATCH review 05/16] userns: Allow unprivileged users to create new namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-19 15:12       ` [PATCH review 06/16] userns: Allow unprivileged use of setns Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-19 15:12       ` [PATCH review 07/16] userns: Make create_new_namespaces take a user_ns parameter Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-19 15:12       ` [PATCH review 09/16] userns: Implent proc namespace operations Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-19 15:12       ` [PATCH review 11/16] procfs: Print task uids and gids in the userns that opened the proc file Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <1353337961-12962-11-git-send-email-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-19 17:58           ` Serge Hallyn
2012-11-19 15:12       ` [PATCH review 12/16] userns: For /proc/self/{uid, gid}_map derive the lower userns from the struct file Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <1353337961-12962-12-git-send-email-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-19 18:03           ` Serge Hallyn
2012-11-19 18:29             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]               ` <87fw451m5i.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-19 21:01                 ` Serge Hallyn
2012-11-19 21:09                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                     ` <877gphz4d9.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-19 21:19                       ` Serge Hallyn [this message]
2012-11-19 21:27                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-19 15:12       ` [PATCH review 13/16] userns: Allow unprivilged mounts of proc and sysfs Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-19 15:12       ` [PATCH review 14/16] proc: Generalize proc inode allocation Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <1353337961-12962-14-git-send-email-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-19 18:04           ` Serge Hallyn
2012-11-19 15:12       ` [PATCH review 15/16] proc: Fix the namespace inode permission checks Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-19 15:12       ` [PATCH review 16/16] proc: Usable inode numbers for the namespace file descriptors Eric W. Biederman

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