From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org, meetmehiro@gmail.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Bug 50981] generic_file_aio_read ?: No locking means DATA CORRUPTION read and write on same 4096 page range
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:13:08 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121126201308.GA21050@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1211261144190.1183@eggly.anvils>
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:05:57PM -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> Gosh, that's a very sudden new consensus. The consensus over the past
> ten or twenty years has been that the Linux kernel enforce locking for
> consistent atomic writes, but skip that overhead on reads - hasn't it?
I'm not sure there was much of a consensus ever. We XFS people always
ttried to push everyone down the strict rule, but there was enough
pushback that it didn't actually happen.
> Thanks, that's helpful; but I think linux-mm people would want to defer
> to linux-fsdevel maintainers on this: mm/filemap.c happens to be in mm/,
> but a fundamental change to VFS locking philosophy is not mm's call.
>
> I don't see that page locking would have anything to do with it: if we
> are going to start guaranteeing reads atomic against concurrent writes,
> then surely it's the size requested by the user to be guaranteed,
> spanning however many pages and fs-blocks: i_mutex, or a more
> efficiently crafted alternative.
What XFS does is simply replace (or rather augment currently) i_mutex
with a rw_semaphore (i_iolock in XFS) which is used the following way:
exclusive:
- buffer writes
- pagecache flushing before direct I/O (then downgraded)
- appending direct I/O writes
- less than blocksize granularity direct I/O
shared:
- everything else (buffered reads, "normal" direct I/O)
Doing this in the highest levels of the generic_file_ code would be
trivial, and would allow us to get rid of a fair chunk of wrappers in
XFS.
Note that we've been thinking about replacing this lock with a range
lock, but this will require more research.
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Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <bug-50981-5823@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
[not found] ` <20121126163328.ACEB011FE9C@bugzilla.kernel.org>
2012-11-26 16:45 ` [Bug 50981] generic_file_aio_read ?: No locking means DATA CORRUPTION read and write on same 4096 page range Theodore Ts'o
2012-11-26 18:59 ` Hiro Lalwani
2012-11-26 20:05 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-11-26 20:13 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2012-11-26 21:28 ` Dave Chinner
2012-11-26 21:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-11-26 21:49 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-11-26 22:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-11-27 1:32 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-11-27 4:27 ` Dave Chinner
2012-11-26 22:17 ` Dave Chinner
2012-11-26 20:15 ` Zach Brown
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