Re: [PATCH] direct-io: allow file systems to do their own waiting for io

[Liu Bo <bo.li.liu@oracle.com>]

On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 07:17:31AM -0500, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 11:14:03AM -0500, Josef Bacik wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 08:41:25AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 08:37:20AM -0500, Josef Bacik wrote:
> > > > Btrfs is terrible with O_DIRECT|O_SYNC, mostly because of the constant
> > > > waiting.  The thing is we have a handy way of waiting for IO that we can
> > > > delay to the very last second so we do all of the O_SYNC work and then wait
> > > > for a bunch of IO to complete.  So introduce a flag to allow the generic
> > > > direct io stuff to forgo waiting and leave that up to the file system.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > I don't really like passing another flag for this, if we we are going to
> > > do something like this it should be in a way where:
> > > 
> > >  - the actualy waiting code is a helper that btrfs would also use
> > >  - the main dio code is structured in a way that we have a lower level
> > >    entry point that skips the waiting, and a higher level one that also
> > >    calls it.
> > > 
> > > That beeing said I'm not imaginative enough to see how you're actually
> > > going to use it.  Posting the btrfs side would help with that.
> > > 
> > 
> > Hrm so I can do that, but it may not make much sense.  Here are the two patches
> > that are relevant (older versions but they get the idea across)
> > 
> > http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/josef/btrfs-next.git;a=commit;h=78b40072c556d82fac5e58793a3178887ac057ec
> > http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/josef/btrfs-next.git;a=commit;h=b7728f1b19eeb2041e3d4da22fd3d5a5c11abd3c
> 
> I've looked over the patches but I still don't know what's going on,
> sorry for having to poke a bit deeper by mail.
> 
> > 
> > Basically what happens with btrfs now in O_SYNC/fsync() with either O_DIRECT or
> > not is this
> > 
> > write()
> > fsync()/O_SYNC
> > 	start and wait on all io to complete
> > 	log changed metadata into special tree
> > 	write and wait on our new log
> > 	sync super which points at our new log
> > 
> > What I'm trying to accomplish is this
> > 
> > write()
> > fsync()/O_SYNC
> > 	start io
> > 	log changed metadata into special tree
> > 	write log and then wait on log and data
> 
> How is going to be safe?  You must only update the metadata once the
> data has made it to disk, that is the actual disk I/O for the metadata
> must only start once the disk I/O for the data has finished.  For
> exactly that scenario the direct I/O code supports the end_io callback
> to notify the filesystem efficiently.

Actually Btrfs's ordered mode is like:

Updating metadata by translating pending io into metadata in btree
after the actual disk I/O finishes its work.

So in fsync we can just make use of these pending io info instead in advance
and delay the waiting process.

thanks,
liubo