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From: Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Simon Jeons <simon.jeons@gmail.com>
Cc: Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@gmail.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Wanpeng Li <liwanp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Namjae Jeon <namjae.jeon@samsung.com>,
	Vivek Trivedi <t.vivek@samsung.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] writeback: fix writeback cache thrashing
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 11:26:42 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130105032642.GA8188@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1357346803.5273.10.camel@kernel.cn.ibm.com>

> > > Hi Namjae,
> > >
> > > Why use bdi_stat_error here? What's the meaning of its comment "maximal
> > > error of a stat counter"?
> > Hi Simon,
> > 
> > As you know bdi stats (BDI_RECLAIMABLE, BDI_WRITEBACK …) are kept in
> > percpu counters.
> > When these percpu counters are incremented/decremented simultaneously
> > on multiple CPUs by small amount (individual cpu counter less than
> > threshold BDI_STAT_BATCH),
> > it is possible that we get approximate value (not exact value) of
> > these percpu counters.
> > In order, to handle these percpu counter error we have used
> > bdi_stat_error. bdi_stat_error is the maximum error which can happen
> > in percpu bdi stats accounting.
> > 
> > bdi_stat(bdi, BDI_RECLAIMABLE);
> >  -> This will give approximate value of BDI_RECLAIMABLE by reading
> > previous value of percpu count.
> > 
> > bdi_stat_sum(bdi, BDI_RECLAIMABLE);
> >  ->This will give exact value of BDI_RECLAIMABLE. It will take lock
> > and add current percpu count of individual CPUs.
> >    It is not recommended to use it frequently as it is expensive. We
> > can better use “bdi_stat” and work with approx value of bdi stats.
> > 
> 
> Hi Namjae, thanks for your clarify.
> 
> But why compare error stat count to bdi_bground_thresh? What's the

It's not comparing bdi_stat_error to bdi_bground_thresh, but rather,
in concept, comparing bdi_stat (with error bound adjustments) to
bdi_bground_thresh.

> relationship between them? I also see bdi_stat_error compare to
> bdi_thresh/bdi_dirty in function balance_dirty_pages. 

Here, it's trying to use bdi_stat_sum(), the accurate (however more
costly) version of bdi_stat(), if the error would possibly be large:

                if (bdi_thresh < 2 * bdi_stat_error(bdi)) {
                        bdi_reclaimable = bdi_stat_sum(bdi, BDI_RECLAIMABLE);
                        //...
                } else {
                        bdi_reclaimable = bdi_stat(bdi, BDI_RECLAIMABLE);
                        //...
                }

Here the comment should have explained it well:

                 * In theory 1 page is enough to keep the comsumer-producer
                 * pipe going: the flusher cleans 1 page => the task dirties 1
                 * more page. However bdi_dirty has accounting errors.  So use
                 * the larger and more IO friendly bdi_stat_error.
                 */
                if (bdi_dirty <= bdi_stat_error(bdi))
                        break;


Thanks,
Fengguang
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-05  3:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-30  5:59 [PATCH] writeback: fix writeback cache thrashing Namjae Jeon
2012-12-31 11:30 ` Jan Kara
2013-01-01  0:51   ` Wanpeng Li
     [not found]   ` <20130101005104.GA23383@hacker.(null)>
2013-01-02 13:43     ` Jan Kara
2013-01-03  4:35       ` Namjae Jeon
2013-01-04  0:59         ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-04  7:41           ` Namjae Jeon
2013-01-05  0:46             ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-05  3:26               ` Fengguang Wu [this message]
2013-01-05  5:26                 ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-05  7:38                   ` Fengguang Wu
2013-01-05  9:41                     ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-05  9:55                       ` Fengguang Wu
2013-01-05  3:18 ` Fengguang Wu
2013-01-09  8:26   ` Namjae Jeon
2013-01-09 15:13     ` Jan Kara
2013-01-10  2:50       ` Wanpeng Li
2013-01-10 11:58       ` Namjae Jeon

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