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From: Kent Overstreet <koverstreet@google.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-aio@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, zab@redhat.com, bcrl@kvack.org,
	jmoyer@redhat.com, axboe@kernel.dk, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	tytso@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH 25/32] aio: use xchg() instead of completion_lock
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:01:16 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130108000116.GK26407@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130107153524.eb2f1223.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 03:35:24PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 15:21:15 -0800
> Kent Overstreet <koverstreet@google.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 03:34:14PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:00:04 -0800
> > > Kent Overstreet <koverstreet@google.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > So, for sticking kiocb completions on the kioctx ringbuffer, we need a
> > > > lock - it unfortunately can't be lockless.
> > > > 
> > > > When the kioctx is shared between threads on different cpus and the rate
> > > > of completions is high, this lock sees quite a bit of contention - in
> > > > terms of cacheline contention it's the hottest thing in the aio
> > > > subsystem.
> > > > 
> > > > That means, with a regular spinlock, we're going to take a cache miss
> > > > to grab the lock, then another cache miss when we touch the data the
> > > > lock protects - if it's on the same cacheline as the lock, other cpus
> > > > spinning on the lock are going to be pulling it out from under us as
> > > > we're using it.
> > > > 
> > > > So, we use an old trick to get rid of this second forced cache miss -
> > > > make the data the lock protects be the lock itself, so we grab them both
> > > > at once.
> > > 
> > > Boy I hope you got that right.
> > > 
> > > Did you consider using bit_spin_lock() on the upper bit of `tail'? 
> > > We've done that in other places and we at least know that it works. 
> > > And it has the optimisations for CONFIG_SMP=n, understands
> > > CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK, has arch-specific optimisations, etc.
> > 
> > I hadn't thought of that - I think it'd suffer from the same problem as
> > a regular spinlock, where you grab the lock, then go to grab your data
> > but a different CPU grabbed the cacheline you need...
> 
> Either you didn't understand my suggestion or I didn't understand your
> patch :(

Safest bet to blame me :p

> I'm suggesting that we use the msot significant bit *of the data* as
> that data's lock.  Obviously, all uses of that data would then mask that
> bit out.

Yeah, I got that.

> That way, the data will be brought into CPU cache when the lock is
> acquired.  And when other CPUs attempt to acquire the lock, they won't
> steal the cacheline.
> 
> This is assuming that an unsuccessful test_and_set_bit_lock() won't
> grab the cacheline, which is hopefully true but I don't know.  If this
> turns out to be false then we could add a test_bit() loop to
> bit_spin_lock(), or perhaps rework bit_spin_lock() to not do the
> test_and_set_bit_lock() unless test_bit() has just returned 0.

I was assuming it would grab the cacheline, but I could easily be
mistaken about that. I know spinning unsuccesfully on a spinlock will
grab the cacheline, I would _think_ both test_and_set_bit_lock() and
test_bit() would as well but since I haven't yet benchmarked or profiled
it I could just be making stuff up.

I'll try it out.

> > But the lock debugging would be nice. It'd probably work to make
> > something generic like bit_spinlock() that also returns some value - or,
> > the recent patches for making spinlocks back off will also help with
> > this problem. So maybe between that and batch completion this patch
> > could be dropped at some point.
> > 
> > So, yeah. The code's plenty tested and I went over the barriers, it
> > already had all the needed barriers due to the ringbuffer... and I've
> > done this sort of thing elsewhere too. But it certaintly is a hack and I
> > wouldn't be sad to see it go.
> 
> Yes, there are a lot of issues with adding a new locking primitive and
> in some ways they get worse when they're open-coded like this.  If
> there's any way at all of using a standard lock instead of KentLocks
> then we should do this.

Yeah, that's certainly true. Honestly, the performance improvements from
this trick were noticable but nothing like the rest of the patch series
- I really wouldn't complain if we just dropped this.

Oh, and bit_spin_lock() doesn't have an _irqsave() variant, bleh.

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-08  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-27  1:59 [PATCH 00/32] AIO performance improvements/cleanups, v3 Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 01/32] mm: remove old aio use_mm() comment Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 02/32] aio: remove dead code from aio.h Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 03/32] gadget: remove only user of aio retry Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 04/32] aio: remove retry-based AIO Kent Overstreet
2012-12-29  7:36   ` Hillf Danton
2013-01-07 22:12     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-12-29  7:47   ` Hillf Danton
2013-01-07 22:15     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 05/32] char: add aio_{read,write} to /dev/{null,zero} Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 06/32] aio: Kill return value of aio_complete() Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 07/32] aio: kiocb_cancel() Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 08/32] aio: Move private stuff out of aio.h Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 09/32] aio: dprintk() -> pr_debug() Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 10/32] aio: do fget() after aio_get_req() Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 11/32] aio: Make aio_put_req() lockless Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 12/32] aio: Refcounting cleanup Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 13/32] wait: Add wait_event_hrtimeout() Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27 10:37   ` Fubo Chen
2013-01-03 23:08   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-08  0:09     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 14/32] aio: Make aio_read_evt() more efficient, convert to hrtimers Kent Overstreet
2013-01-03 23:19   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-08  0:28     ` Kent Overstreet
2013-01-08  1:00       ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-08  1:28         ` Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 15/32] aio: Use flush_dcache_page() Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 16/32] aio: Use cancellation list lazily Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 17/32] aio: Change reqs_active to include unreaped completions Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 18/32] aio: Kill batch allocation Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 19/32] aio: Kill struct aio_ring_info Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  1:59 ` [PATCH 20/32] aio: Give shared kioctx fields their own cachelines Kent Overstreet
2013-01-03 23:25   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-07 23:48     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  2:00 ` [PATCH 21/32] aio: reqs_active -> reqs_available Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  2:00 ` [PATCH 22/32] aio: percpu reqs_available Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  2:00 ` [PATCH 23/32] Generic dynamic per cpu refcounting Kent Overstreet
2013-01-03 22:48   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-07 23:47     ` Kent Overstreet
2013-01-08  1:03       ` [PATCH] percpu-refcount: Sparse fixes Kent Overstreet
2013-01-25  0:51   ` [PATCH 23/32] Generic dynamic per cpu refcounting Tejun Heo
2013-01-25  1:13     ` Kent Overstreet
2013-01-25  2:03       ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-25  2:09         ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-28 17:48           ` Kent Overstreet
2013-01-28 18:18             ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-25  6:15     ` Rusty Russell
2013-01-28 17:53       ` Kent Overstreet
2013-01-28 17:59         ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-28 18:32           ` Kent Overstreet
2013-01-28 18:57             ` Christoph Lameter
2013-02-08 14:44   ` Tejun Heo
2013-02-08 14:49     ` Jens Axboe
2013-02-08 17:50       ` Andrew Morton
2013-02-08 21:27       ` Kent Overstreet
2013-02-11 14:21         ` Jeff Moyer
2013-02-08 21:17     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  2:00 ` [PATCH 24/32] aio: Percpu ioctx refcount Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  2:00 ` [PATCH 25/32] aio: use xchg() instead of completion_lock Kent Overstreet
2013-01-03 23:34   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-07 23:21     ` Kent Overstreet
2013-01-07 23:35       ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-08  0:01         ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2012-12-27  2:00 ` [PATCH 26/32] aio: Don't include aio.h in sched.h Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  2:00 ` [PATCH 27/32] aio: Kill ki_key Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  2:00 ` [PATCH 28/32] aio: Kill ki_retry Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  2:00 ` [PATCH 29/32] block, aio: Batch completion for bios/kiocbs Kent Overstreet
2013-01-04  9:22   ` Jens Axboe
2013-01-07 23:34     ` Kent Overstreet
2013-01-08 15:33       ` Jeff Moyer
2013-01-08 16:06         ` Kent Overstreet
2013-01-08 16:15           ` Jeff Moyer
2013-01-08 16:48             ` Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  2:00 ` [PATCH 30/32] virtio-blk: Convert to batch completion Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  2:00 ` [PATCH 31/32] mtip32xx: " Kent Overstreet
2012-12-27  2:00 ` [PATCH 32/32] aio: Smoosh struct kiocb Kent Overstreet
2013-01-04  9:22 ` [PATCH 00/32] AIO performance improvements/cleanups, v3 Jens Axboe

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