From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, lucho@ionkov.net, jack@suse.cz,
ericvh@gmail.com, tytso@mit.edu, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
rminnich@sandia.gov, martin.petersen@oracle.com, neilb@suse.de,
david@fromorbit.com, gnehzuil.liu@gmail.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hch@infradead.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, adilger.kernel@dilger.ca,
bharrosh@panasas.com, jlayton@samba.org,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2.4 0/3] mm/fs: Remove unnecessary waiting for stable pages
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:43:52 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130116204352.9d343964.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130117024902.GJ6426@blackbox.djwong.org>
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:49:02 -0800 "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> > The problem back in 2001 was that we held lock_page() across the
> > duration of page writeback, so if another thread came in and tried to
> > dirty the page, it would block on lock_page() until IO completion. I
> > can't remember whether writeback would also block read(). Maybe it did,
> > in which case the effects of this patchset won't be as dramatic as were
> > the effects of splitting PG_lock into PG_lock and PG_writeback.
>
> Now that you've stirred my memory, I /do/ dimly recall that Linux waited for
> writeback back in the old days. At least we'll be back to that.
Not really. 2.4 did writeback by walking a standalone list of
buffer_heads, without locking their containing page. I removed all
that and did writeback of the page instead. That immediately caused
this problem, because the 2.4 writepage held lock_page() across
writeout. So I changed that to drop lock_page() immediately after
submission and added PG_writeback to flag the under-writeback state.
The second change went in pretty much immediately - all within the
same 2.5.x release, probably.
> As a side note, the average latency of a write to a non-DIF disk dropped down
> to nearly nothing.
Some hard numbers in the changelog would be nice. Did you try dbench-on-ext2?
> >
> > Do we generate nice kernel messages (at mount or device-probe time)
> > which will permit people to work out which strategy their device/fs is
> > using?
>
> No. /sys/devices/virtual/bdi/*/stable_pages_required will tell you
> stable pages are on or not, but so far only ext3 uses snapshots and the rest
> just wait. Do you think a printk would be useful?
Nope, if we can query the mode under /sys then that should be sufficient.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-01-17 4:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-15 5:42 [PATCH v2.4 0/3] mm/fs: Remove unnecessary waiting for stable pages Darrick J. Wong
2013-01-15 5:42 ` [PATCH 1/6] bdi: Allow block devices to say that they require stable page writes Darrick J. Wong
2013-01-15 5:42 ` [PATCH 2/6] mm: Only enforce stable page writes if the backing device requires it Darrick J. Wong
2013-01-15 10:19 ` Jan Kara
2013-01-15 10:59 ` Steven Whitehouse
2013-01-18 1:26 ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-01-15 5:42 ` [PATCH 3/6] 9pfs: Fix filesystem to wait for stable page writeback Darrick J. Wong
2013-01-15 5:43 ` [PATCH 4/6] block: Optionally snapshot page contents to provide stable pages during write Darrick J. Wong
2013-01-16 2:00 ` Jan Kara
2013-01-17 3:01 ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-01-17 3:26 ` Martin K. Petersen
2013-01-17 10:32 ` Jan Kara
2013-01-15 5:43 ` [PATCH 5/6] ocfs2: Wait for page writeback to provide stable pages Darrick J. Wong
2013-01-15 10:15 ` Jan Kara
2013-01-15 5:43 ` [PATCH 6/6] ubifs: " Darrick J. Wong
2013-01-15 22:46 ` [PATCH v2.4 0/3] mm/fs: Remove unnecessary waiting for " Andrew Morton
2013-01-16 0:22 ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-01-16 0:33 ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-17 2:49 ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-01-17 4:43 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2013-01-18 1:18 ` Darrick J. Wong
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