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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: "J. R. Okajima" <hooanon05@yahoo.co.jp>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hch@infradead.org,
	apw@canonical.com, nbd@openwrt.org, neilb@suse.de,
	jordipujolp@gmail.com, ezk@fsl.cs.sunysb.edu,
	dhowells@redhat.com, sedat.dilek@googlemail.com,
	mszeredi@suse.cz
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] overlay filesystem: request for inclusion (v17)
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 04:44:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130315044411.GW21522@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19058.1363320936@jrobl>

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 01:15:36PM +0900, J. R. Okajima wrote:

> +- whiteout is hardlinked in order to reduce the consumption of inodes
> +  on branch

*blink* Whiteouts have no inodes at all.  Filesystem has an additional
kind of directory entries, recognizable as whiteouts.  How they are
done is up to filesystem in question.

> +- kernel thread for removing the dir who has a plenty of whiteouts

Again, implementation detail for individual filesystem.

> +The whiteout in aufs is very similar to Unionfs's. That is represented
> +by its filename. UnionMount takes an approach of a file mode, but I am
> +afraid several utilities (find(1) or something) will have to support it.

Why the devil should find(1) even see them?

I really don't believe that it's a good idea to try making them fs-agnostic;
it's an implementation detail of filesystem, with things like "is this
directory empty?" very much belonging to the fs in question...

I don't know; maybe it's my experience of dealing with umsdos that has badly
soured me on that kind of approach, but IME this kind of schemes tend to
be brittle as hell ;-/

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-15  4:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-13 14:16 [PATCH 0/9] overlay filesystem: request for inclusion (v17) Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-13 14:16 ` [PATCH 1/9] vfs: add i_op->dentry_open() Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-13 22:44   ` Andrew Morton
2013-03-14 11:15     ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-13 14:16 ` [PATCH 2/9] vfs: export do_splice_direct() to modules Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-13 22:45   ` Andrew Morton
2013-03-13 14:16 ` [PATCH 3/9] vfs: export __inode_permission() " Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-13 14:16 ` [PATCH 4/9] vfs: introduce clone_private_mount() Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-13 22:48   ` Andrew Morton
2013-03-14 13:28     ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-13 14:16 ` [PATCH 5/9] overlay filesystem Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-13 22:53   ` Andrew Morton
2013-03-13 14:16 ` [PATCH 6/9] overlayfs: add statfs support Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-13 14:16 ` [PATCH 7/9] overlayfs: implement show_options Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-13 14:16 ` [PATCH 8/9] overlay: overlay filesystem documentation Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-13 23:06   ` Andrew Morton
2013-03-14 13:35     ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-13 14:16 ` [PATCH 9/9] fs: limit filesystem stacking depth Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-13 14:31 ` [PATCH 0/9] overlay filesystem: request for inclusion (v17) Sedat Dilek
2013-03-13 15:13   ` Sedat Dilek
2013-03-13 15:18     ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-13 15:26       ` Sedat Dilek
2013-03-13 15:53         ` Sedat Dilek
2013-03-13 16:10           ` Sedat Dilek
2013-03-13 16:21             ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-13 16:35               ` Sedat Dilek
2013-03-13 16:51               ` Sedat Dilek
2013-03-13 18:12                 ` Robin Holt
2013-03-13 18:37                   ` Felix Fietkau
2013-03-13 19:10                     ` Sedat Dilek
2013-03-13 19:54                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-13 19:58                         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-13 20:27                           ` Sedat Dilek
     [not found]             ` <CAB3woddVfZ9PdYPpzidJLBMmUeRx0Rxgb5Pc8bTM9U-tkcS_uA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-03-13 20:32               ` Sedat Dilek
2013-03-13 20:36             ` Phillip Lougher
2013-03-13 23:08 ` Andrew Morton
2013-03-14 13:43   ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-15  1:25     ` Al Viro
2013-03-15  4:15       ` J. R. Okajima
2013-03-15  4:44         ` Al Viro [this message]
2013-03-15  5:09           ` J. R. Okajima
2013-03-15  5:13             ` Al Viro
2013-03-15  8:15               ` James Bottomley
2013-03-15 12:12                 ` Al Viro
2013-03-15 18:57                   ` J. R. Okajima
2013-03-15 19:26                     ` Erez Zadok
2013-03-15 20:30                     ` Al Viro
2013-03-16 13:55                       ` J. R. Okajima
2013-03-15 19:11             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-16 13:57               ` J. R. Okajima
2013-03-17 13:06 ` [PATCH 2/9] vfs: export do_splice_direct() to modules David Howells
2013-03-18  2:31   ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-18 15:39   ` Jan Kara
2013-03-18 21:53     ` Al Viro
2013-03-18 23:01       ` Al Viro
2013-03-19  1:38         ` Al Viro
2013-03-19  9:00           ` J. R. Okajima
2013-03-19 10:29           ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-19 17:03             ` Al Viro
2013-03-19 18:32               ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-19 21:24                 ` Al Viro
2013-03-20  9:15                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-19 11:04           ` David Howells
2013-03-19 11:40             ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-03-19 20:54         ` Jan Kara
2013-03-19 20:25       ` Jan Kara
2013-03-19 21:38         ` Al Viro
2013-03-19 22:10           ` Al Viro
2013-03-20  2:33             ` Al Viro
2013-03-20 19:52               ` Jan Kara
2013-03-20 21:48                 ` Al Viro
2013-03-20 22:19                   ` Jan Kara
2013-03-20 12:30             ` David Howells
2013-03-22 17:37   ` J. R. Okajima
2013-03-22 18:11     ` Al Viro
2013-03-22 18:21       ` Al Viro
2013-03-23  2:49         ` J. R. Okajima
2013-03-23  4:41           ` Al Viro
2013-03-23  5:37             ` J. R. Okajima

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