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From: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	mtk.manpages@gmail.com, Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Aristeu Rozanski <aris@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] fs: allow mknod in user namespaces
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:23:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130316002318.GA11997@sergelap> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a9q4gzs1.fsf@xmission.com>

Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@xmission.com):
> Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com> writes:
> 
> > Since we have strict control on who access the devices, it should be
> > no problem to allow the device to appear.
> 
> Having cgroups or user namespaces grant privileges makes me uneasy.
> 
> With these patches it looks like I can do something evil like.
> 
> 1. Create a devcgroup.
> 2. Put a process in it.
> 3. Create a usernamespace.
> 4. Run a container in that user namespace.
> 5. As an unprivileged user in that user namespace create another user namespace.
> 6. Call mknod and have it succeed.

not if the devcgroup forbids it.

> Or in short I don't think this handles nested user namespaces at all.
> With or without Serge's suggested change.

Yeah my change doesn't help, other than to stop the unpriv user from
creating the device in an fs he doesn't own...

> At a practical level now is not the right time to be granting more
> permissions to user namespaces.  Lately too many silly bugs have been
> found in what is already there.

I agree.

I realize this doesn't help the centos old-udev situation, but otherwise
bind mounting device files works fine, so I agree we should wait.
Sorry.

-serge

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-16  0:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-15  9:13 [PATCH 0/4] fix depvpts in user namespaces Glauber Costa
     [not found] ` <1363338823-25292-1-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15  9:13   ` [PATCH 1/4] dev_cgroup: keep track of which cgroup is the root cgroup Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1363338823-25292-2-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 14:07       ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 14:43         ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 14:55           ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 19:27       ` Aristeu Rozanski
2013-03-15  9:13   ` [PATCH 2/4] fs: allow dev accesses in userns in controlled situations Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 14:20     ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15  9:13   ` [PATCH 3/4] fs: allow mknod in user namespaces Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1363338823-25292-4-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 14:37       ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 14:49         ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]           ` <51433511.1020808-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 15:14             ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 18:03     ` Vasily Kulikov
2013-03-15 20:43     ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-16  0:23       ` Serge Hallyn [this message]
2013-03-15  9:13   ` [PATCH 4/4] devpts: fix usage " Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1363338823-25292-5-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 14:45       ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 10:26   ` [PATCH 0/4] fix depvpts " Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <87boalt0vi.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 12:01       ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 14:00     ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 14:42       ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]         ` <5143333E.1040100-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 15:21           ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 15:26             ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]               ` <51433DBE.9020109-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-15 15:58                 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-15 16:01                   ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-15 21:02               ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-18  3:20                 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-18 21:23                   ` Eric W. Biederman

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