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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Wanpeng Li <liwanp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: JoonSoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	hughd@google.com, yinghan@google.com,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/28] vmscan: take at least one pass with shrinkers
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:25:24 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130411092524.GK10481@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130411072729.GA3605@hacker.(null)>

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 03:27:30PM +0800, Wanpeng Li wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:41:14AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> >On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:03:39PM +0900, JoonSoo Kim wrote:
> >> Another one what I found is that they don't account "nr_reclaimed" precisely.
> >> There is no code which check whether "current->reclaim_state" exist or not,
> >> except prune_inode().
> >
> >That's because prune_inode() can free page cache pages when the
> >inode mapping is invalidated. Hence it accounts this in addition
> >to the slab objects being freed.
> >
> >IOWs, if you have a shrinker that frees pages from the page cache,
> >you need to do this. Last time I checked, only inode cache reclaim
> >caused extra page cache reclaim to occur, so most (all?) other
> >shrinkers do not need to do this.
> >
> 
> If we should account "nr_reclaimed" against huge zero page? There are 
> large number(512) of pages reclaimed which can throttle direct or 
> kswapd relcaim to avoid reclaim excess pages. I can do this work if 
> you think the idea is needed.

I'm not sure. the zero hugepage is allocated through:

	zero_page = alloc_pages((GFP_TRANSHUGE | __GFP_ZERO) & ~__GFP_MOVABLE,   
				HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);

which means the pages reclaimed by the shrinker aren't file/anon LRU
pages.  Hence I'm not sure what extra accounting might be useful
here, but accounting them as LRU pages being reclaimed seems wrong.

FWIW, the reclaim of a single global object by a shrinker is not
really a use case the shrinkers were designed for, so I suspect that
anything we try to do right now within the current framework will
just be a hack.

I suspect that what we need to do is add the current zone reclaim
priority to the shrinker control structure (like has been done with
the nodemask) so that objects like this can be considered for
removal at a specific reclaim priority level rather than trying to
use scan/count trickery to get where we want to be.

Perhaps we need a shrinker->shrink_priority method that is called just
once when the reclaim priority is high enough to trigger it. i.e.
all these "do something special when memory reclaim is struggling to
make progress" operations set the priority at which they get called
and every time shrink_slab() is then called with that priority (or
higher) the shrinker->shrink_priority method is called just once?

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-04-11  9:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-29  9:13 [PATCH v2 00/28] memcg-aware slab shrinking Glauber Costa
     [not found] ` <1364548450-28254-1-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-29  9:13   ` [PATCH v2 01/28] super: fix calculation of shrinkable objects for small numbers Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1364548450-28254-2-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01  7:16       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-29  9:13   ` [PATCH v2 02/28] vmscan: take at least one pass with shrinkers Glauber Costa
2013-04-01  7:26     ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01  8:10       ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]         ` <515940E4.8050704-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-10  5:09           ` Ric Mason
2013-04-10  7:32             ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-10  9:19             ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-08  8:42     ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-08  8:47       ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-08  9:01         ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-08  9:05           ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-09  0:55             ` Joonsoo Kim
     [not found]               ` <20130409005547.GC21654-Hm3cg6mZ9cc@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-09  1:29                 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-09  2:05                   ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-09  7:43                     ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                       ` <5163C6A5.5050307-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-09  9:08                         ` Joonsoo Kim
     [not found]                     ` <20130409020505.GA4218-Hm3cg6mZ9cc@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-09 12:30                       ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-10  2:51                         ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-10  7:30                           ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                             ` <51651518.4010007-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-10  8:19                               ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-10  8:46                           ` Wanpeng Li
     [not found]                           ` <20130410025115.GA5872-Hm3cg6mZ9cc@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-10  8:46                             ` Wanpeng Li
     [not found]                           ` <20130410084606.GA10235@hacker.(null)>
2013-04-10 10:07                             ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-10 14:03                               ` JoonSoo Kim
     [not found]                                 ` <CAAmzW4OMyZ=nVbHK_AiifPK5LVxvhOQUXmsD5NGfo33CBjf=eA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-11  0:41                                   ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-11  7:27                                     ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-11  7:27                                     ` Wanpeng Li
     [not found]                                     ` <20130411072729.GA3605@hacker.(null)>
2013-04-11  9:25                                       ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 03/28] dcache: convert dentry_stat.nr_unused to per-cpu counters Glauber Costa
2013-04-05  1:09   ` Greg Thelen
     [not found]     ` <xr93r4ipkcl0.fsf-aSPv4SP+Du0KgorLzL7FmE7CuiCeIGUxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-05  1:15       ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-08  9:14         ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-08 13:18           ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]           ` <51628A88.2090002-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-08 23:26             ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-09  8:02               ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                 ` <5163CB0D.1040000-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-09 12:47                   ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 04/28] dentry: move to per-sb LRU locks Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 05/28] dcache: remove dentries from LRU before putting on dispose list Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <1364548450-28254-6-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-03  6:51     ` Sha Zhengju
2013-04-03  8:55       ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-04  6:19       ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-04  6:56         ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 06/28] mm: new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-04-05  1:09   ` Greg Thelen
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 07/28] shrinker: convert superblock shrinkers to new API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 08/28] list: add a new LRU list type Glauber Costa
2013-04-04 21:53   ` Greg Thelen
2013-04-05  1:20     ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-05  8:01       ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-06  0:04         ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 09/28] inode: convert inode lru list to generic lru list code Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 10/28] dcache: convert to use new lru list infrastructure Glauber Costa
2013-04-08 13:14   ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <5162C2C4.7010807-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-08 23:28       ` Dave Chinner
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 11/28] list_lru: per-node " Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 12/28] shrinker: add node awareness Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 13/28] fs: convert inode and dentry shrinking to be node aware Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 14/28] xfs: convert buftarg LRU to generic code Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 15/28] xfs: convert dquot cache lru to list_lru Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 16/28] fs: convert fs shrinkers to new scan/count API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:13 ` [PATCH v2 17/28] drivers: convert shrinkers to new count/scan API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 18/28] shrinker: convert remaining shrinkers to " Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 19/28] hugepage: convert huge zero page shrinker to new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 20/28] shrinker: Kill old ->shrink API Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 21/28] vmscan: also shrink slab in memcg pressure Glauber Costa
2013-04-01  7:46   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01  8:51     ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <1364548450-28254-22-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-03 10:11     ` Sha Zhengju
2013-04-03 10:43       ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-04  9:35         ` Sha Zhengju
2013-04-05  8:25           ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 22/28] memcg,list_lru: duplicate LRUs upon kmemcg creation Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <1364548450-28254-23-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01  8:05     ` [PATCH v2 22/28] memcg, list_lru: " Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01  8:22       ` [PATCH v2 22/28] memcg,list_lru: " Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 23/28] lru: add an element to a memcg list Glauber Costa
2013-04-01  8:18   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01  8:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 24/28] list_lru: also include memcg lists in counts and scans Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 25/28] list_lru: per-memcg walks Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 26/28] memcg: per-memcg kmem shrinking Glauber Costa
2013-04-01  8:31   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01  8:48     ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]       ` <515949EB.7020400-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01  9:01         ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-01  9:14           ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-01  9:35           ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 27/28] list_lru: reclaim proportionaly between memcgs and nodes Glauber Costa
2013-03-29  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 28/28] super: targeted memcg reclaim Glauber Costa
2013-04-01 12:38 ` [PATCH v2 00/28] memcg-aware slab shrinking Serge Hallyn
2013-04-01 12:45   ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <51598168.4050404-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01 14:12       ` Serge Hallyn
2013-04-08  8:11         ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-02  4:58   ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-02  7:55     ` Glauber Costa

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