From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
To: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@suse.cz>, Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>,
Sage Weil <sage@inktank.com>, Steve French <sfrench@samba.org>,
Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
autofs@vger.kernel.org, ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
"Chandramouleeswaran, Aswin" <aswin@hp.com>,
"Norton, Scott J" <scott.norton@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3 v3] dcache: make it more scalable on large system
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 11:11:27 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130530151127.GA13756@logfs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51A774E2.9050307@hp.com>
On Thu, 30 May 2013 11:48:50 -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> On 05/29/2013 05:19 PM, Jörn Engel wrote:
> >On Wed, 29 May 2013 22:37:00 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> >>>As Dave said before, is the last path component sufficient? Or how
> >>>about an inode number?
> >>Neither works, the profiler needs to find the file and read it.
> >Ignoring all the complexity this would cause downstream, you could do
> >the path lookup just once, attach some cookie to it and return the
> >cookie ever-after. Maybe some combination of i_sb and i_ino would be
> >good enough as a cookie.
>
> Still, it is just shifting the complexity from the d_path code to
> the perf kernel subsystem as it needs to keep track of what paths
> have been sent up before.
That sounds like a good thing to have. Every single linux user
depends on the dcache. Only a relatively small subset cares about
perf. Having dcache pay the cost for perf's special needs is a
classical externality.
> It also have complications in case the
> tracked files are being deleted or moved around in the filesystem.
> Some kind of notification mechanism has to be implemented in the
> dentry layer to notify the perf subsystem.
Agreed. The whole approach is based on getting the 99% case right and
occasionally being wrong. For perf this may be acceptable, not sure.
Jörn
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-30 16:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-23 1:37 [PATCH 0/3 v3] dcache: make it more scalable on large system Waiman Long
2013-05-23 1:37 ` [PATCH 1/3 v3] dcache: Don't take unnecessary lock in d_count update Waiman Long
2013-05-23 1:37 ` Waiman Long
2013-05-23 1:37 ` [PATCH 2/3 v3] dcache: introduce a new sequence read/write lock type Waiman Long
2013-05-23 1:37 ` Waiman Long
2013-05-23 1:37 ` [PATCH 3/3 v3] dcache: change rename_lock to a sequence read/write lock Waiman Long
2013-05-23 1:37 ` Waiman Long
2013-05-23 9:42 ` [PATCH 0/3 v3] dcache: make it more scalable on large system Dave Chinner
2013-05-23 21:34 ` Waiman Long
2013-05-27 2:09 ` Dave Chinner
2013-05-29 15:55 ` Waiman Long
[not found] ` <51A624E2.3000301-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 16:13 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <20130529161358.GJ6123-1g7Xle2YJi4/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 20:23 ` Waiman Long
2013-05-29 16:18 ` Simo Sorce
2013-05-29 16:56 ` Andi Kleen
2013-05-29 17:03 ` Simo Sorce
2013-05-29 20:37 ` Waiman Long
[not found] ` <1369844289.2769.146.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 20:32 ` Waiman Long
2013-05-29 18:46 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-05-29 20:37 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <20130529203700.GM6123-1g7Xle2YJi4/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 20:43 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-05-29 21:01 ` Andi Kleen
2013-05-29 21:19 ` Jörn Engel
2013-05-30 15:48 ` Waiman Long
2013-05-30 15:11 ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2013-06-06 3:48 ` Dave Chinner
2013-05-29 20:40 ` Waiman Long
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2013-05-23 1:37 Waiman Long
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