From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Kent Overstreet <koverstreet@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-aio@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/21] Percpu tag allocator
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 19:42:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130611174238.GA8139@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130610232030.GA6151@google.com>
On 06/10, Kent Overstreet wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 05:41:21PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > Do you really think that, say,
> >
> > unsigned tag_alloc(struct tag_pool *pool, bool wait)
> > {
> > struct tag_cpu_freelist *tags;
> > unsigned ret = 0;
> > retry:
> > tags = get_cpu_ptr(pool->tag_cpu);
> > local_irq_disable();
> > if (!tags->nr_free && pool->nr_free) {
> > spin_lock(&pool->wq.lock);
> > if (pool->nr_free)
> > move_tags(...);
> > spin_unlock(&pool->wq.lock);
> > }
> >
> > if (tags->nr_free)
> > ret = tags->free[--tags->nr_free];
> > local_irq_enable();
> > put_cpu_var(pool->tag_cpu);
> >
> > if (ret || !wait)
> > return ret;
> >
> > __wait_event(&pool->wq, pool->nr_free);
> > goto retry;
> > }
> >
> > will be much slower?
>
> The overhead from doing nested irqsave/restore() sucks. I've had it bite
> me hard with the recent aio work.
Not sure I understand... Only __wait_event() does irqsave/restore and
we are going to sleep anyway.
> But screw it, it's not going to matter
> that much here.
Yes.
And, imho, even if we need some optimizations here, it would be better
to make a separate patch backed by the numbers or at least the detailed
explanation.
> > Question. tag_free() does move_tags+wakeup if nr_free = pool->watermark * 2.
> > Perhaps it should should also take waitqueue_active() into account ?
> > tag_alloc() can sleep more than necessary, it seems.
>
> No.
>
> By "sleeping more than necessary" you mean sleeping when there's tags
> available on other percpu freelists.
Yes,
> That's just unavoidable if the thing's to be percpu - efficient use of
> available tags requires global knowledge. Sleeping less would require
> more global cacheline contention, and would defeat the purpose of this
> code.
Yes, yes, I understand, there is a tradeoff. Just it is still not clear
to me what would be better "in practice"... So,
> So when you're deciding how many tag structs to allocate, you just
> double the number you'd allocate otherwise when you're using this code.
I am not sure this is really needed.
But OK, I see your point, thanks.
Oleg.
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Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-14 1:18 AIO refactoring/performance improvements/cancellation Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 01/21] aio: fix kioctx not being freed after cancellation at exit time Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 02/21] aio: reqs_active -> reqs_available Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 03/21] aio: percpu reqs_available Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 04/21] Generic percpu refcounting Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 13:51 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-05-15 8:21 ` Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 14:59 ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-14 15:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-05-15 9:00 ` Kent Overstreet
2013-05-15 8:58 ` Kent Overstreet
2013-05-15 17:37 ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-28 23:47 ` Kent Overstreet
2013-05-29 1:11 ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-29 4:59 ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-31 20:12 ` Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 21:59 ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-14 22:15 ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-15 9:07 ` Kent Overstreet
2013-05-15 17:56 ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-16 0:26 ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 05/21] aio: percpu ioctx refcount Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 06/21] aio: io_cancel() no longer returns the io_event Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 07/21] aio: Don't use ctx->tail unnecessarily Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 08/21] aio: Kill aio_rw_vect_retry() Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 09/21] aio: Kill unneeded kiocb members Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 10/21] aio: Kill ki_users Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 11/21] aio: Kill ki_dtor Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 12/21] aio: convert the ioctx list to radix tree Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 13/21] block: prep work for batch completion Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 14/21] block, aio: batch completion for bios/kiocbs Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 15/21] virtio-blk: convert to batch completion Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 16/21] mtip32xx: " Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 17/21] Percpu tag allocator Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 13:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-05-14 14:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-05-15 9:34 ` Kent Overstreet
2013-05-15 9:25 ` Kent Overstreet
2013-05-15 15:41 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-05-15 16:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-10 23:20 ` Kent Overstreet
2013-06-11 17:42 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2013-05-14 15:03 ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-15 20:19 ` Andi Kleen
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 18/21] aio: Allow cancellation without a cancel callback, new kiocb lookup Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 19/21] aio/usb: Update cancellation for new synchonization Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 20/21] direct-io: Set dio->io_error directly Kent Overstreet
2013-05-14 1:18 ` [PATCH 21/21] block: Bio cancellation Kent Overstreet
2013-05-15 17:52 ` Jens Axboe
2013-05-15 19:29 ` Kent Overstreet
2013-05-15 20:01 ` Jens Axboe
2013-05-31 22:52 ` Kent Overstreet
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