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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Eric Sandeen <esandeen@redhat.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
	Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@gmail.com>,
	"adilger.kernel@dilger.ca" <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	"a.sangwan@samsung.com" <a.sangwan@samsung.com>,
	Namjae Jeon <namjae.jeon@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] ext4: introduce two new ioctls
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:08:44 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130624080844.GR29338@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130624031235.GA6991@thunk.org>

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 11:12:35PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:44:59PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > 
> > Hence, at minimum, this should be a fallocate() operation, not a ext4
> > specific ioctl as it is relatively trivial to implement on most
> > extent based filesystems.
> 
> The fallocate() uses a units of bytes for the offset and length; would
> a FALLOC_FL_COLLAPSE_RANGE be guaranteed to work on any arbitrary
> offset and length?  Or would it only work if the offset and length are
> multiples of the file system blocksize?

There's nothing stopping us from restricting the offset/len to
specific alignments if the operation cannot be done on arbitrary
byte ranges. We do that for direct IO, and the sky hasn't fallen
yet.

> The the EXT4_IOC_TRUNCATE_BLOCK_RANGE interface solves this problem by
> using units of file system blocks (i.e., __u32 start_block), but that
> raises another issue, which is it forces the user space program to
> somehow figure out the file system block size, which seems a bit nasty.

Yeah, exactly. We can do that internally very easily, and EINVAL can
be returned when the alignment is bad just like we do for direct
IO...

But, well, I pine for a generic XFS_IOC_DIOINFO interface so the
filesystem can tell users about alignment restrictions....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-24  8:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-23  6:07 [PATCH 0/3] ext4: introduce two new ioctls Namjae Jeon
2013-06-23  6:22 ` Namjae Jeon
2013-06-23 17:00 ` Andreas Dilger
2013-06-24  0:32   ` Eric Sandeen
2013-06-24  2:44     ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-24  3:12       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-06-24  8:08         ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2013-06-24  7:06       ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-06-24  9:35         ` Namjae Jeon
2013-06-24 10:37           ` Sidorov, Andrei
2013-06-24 14:14             ` Zheng Liu
2013-06-24 21:29             ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-24  6:48   ` Namjae Jeon
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-06-23  6:05 Namjae Jeon

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